Adam Lambert Post AMA News Update for 12/03/09
News is still breaking today, regarding ABC’s cancellations of Adam Lambert’s appearances on Jimmy Kimmel Live and Dick Clark’s New Years Rockin’ Eve.
Check out the news briefs below, and a couple of videos, after the jump.
The LA Times seems to think that the FCC complaint from rightwingnuts, the Liberty Counsel is at the center of ABC’s and Adam’s woes. I believe it’s more complicated than that. via LA Times
Michael Slezak’s take on the newest cancellations. via Entertainment Weekly
Jimmy Kimmel fought hard to keep Adam on the show. ‘The show fought to really try and keep [Adam], but they were told it was a bigger deal [than the show],’ the source said. Also, Pink’s 2003 Billboard Awards performance where she shoved a male dancer’s face in her crotch was edited on BOTH FEEDS in the US. The video that’s been passed around is from Canada, I hear, where they aren’t so uptight about sex. via Access Hollywood.
TMZ reports that GLAAD released a statement sympathizing with ABC on the Lambert matter, “It would appear that the kiss between Adam Lambert and his keyboardist did not factor into ABC’s decision … ABC has a history of positive gay and transgender inclusion that includes featuring kisses between gay and lesbian couples on-air.” via TMZ
UPDATE: Glaad amended their original statement to clarify:
Since his American Music Awards performance occurred GLAAD has consistently advocated that Adam Lambert and openly gay artists not be held to a double standard. As we have expressed publicly, it is disappointing that ABC will not give Lambert a chance to perform at this time. GLAAD’s discussions with ABC focused on confirming that his sexual orientation was not a factor in their decisions. ABC confirmed this is not about a same-sex kiss or his sexual orientation but about being ‘caught off guard.’ GLAAD asked ABC and calls on them for clarification on ‘caught off guard’ so that the community knows why Lambert is being denied the opportunity to perform on the network.
After the jump, the ladies of The View talk about Adam Lambert’s recent cancellations from Jimmy Kimmel Live and New Years Rockin Eve. Barbara gets a plug for her show, Ten Most Fascinating People. Adam will be a guest.
BONUS: And just for fun, Ellen Degeneres enlists Adam to sing the theme song for her 12 days of Christmas!
Videos after the JUMP…
The View
Ellen’s 12 Days of Christmas
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I am soooo past the ABC controversy. They’re just hurting themselves by making such a fuss about nothing.
Meanwhile, Adam goes on and thrives and shines in different venues
Let’s not dwell on the AMA thing,the best thing we do is to concentrate on Adam’s music and help his music to reach number1 in the chart
Let’s take the whole gay/homophobia argument out of the equation and assume that is played no part in ABC’s decision….heck, let’s even assume for the sake of argument that Adam is straight….ABC’s actions in cancelling Kimmel and NYE remain ridiculous. The reaction to Adam’s AMA performance was not that terrible — they got less complaints than they do for DWTS performances and way way way less than the Janet Jackson superbowl incident. Some people were disgusted/some people thought it was rok n roll awesome. ABC is now starting to be ridiculed in the mainstream media (read today’s Washington Post) and blogosphere for the Kimmel and NYE decisions. I mean, the Kimmel performance would have been on after midnight. And Kimmel is the show that had the I’m fucking Matt Damon and Ben Affleck skits (which were hilarious)….the NYE performancs are mostly taped, and even if live, could have been on after midnight or close to it. For all of you noting that Adam’s performance was on at 9:55 pm CST, the FCC and court’s are not going to make hay out of that 5 minute time difference…they will take into acount how close it was to 10pm. Again, either there will not be any fines, or they will be run of the mill small ones that networks get all the time (there have been a whole lot of live award shows where performers/presenters have cursed, make obscene gestures, made out there political statements etc.). Read the court of appeals decision in the Janet Jackson case — the court took into consideration the fleeting nature of the episode etc. And it is clear that ABC’s actions are completely punitive in nature and not based upon any concern of further FCC fines. The other networks and shows seem to have no problem with Adam, and their audiences are giving him enthusiastic receptions. Adam will be fine in the end; ABC is looking petty and silly.
To lighten up, I thought Adam said he doesnt sing Christmas songs cause he is Jewish, yet he sings one for Ellen, many remarks can be made of that, but I love Adam, and loved him singing it, so LOL.
Yesterday on the morning show at WPLJ (NYC), the guys felt Adam was cancelled on ABC because he went over to CBS when the GMA appearance was cancelled.
And Adam’s responsibilities do not diminish either. He had a contract with ABC and HE is the one that went over the line. If he had not done it, ABC would not have had to censor him and take the heat. Adam appears to be a loose cannon to them and while we don’t know if the FCC will fine ABC (could take years to investigate) ABC will be the one that has to pay and expend countless time and money on this, not Adam. This is a business decision pure and simple and I for one, don’t blame ABC. As to the other networks coming to Adam’s rescue, give me a break. They did it for RATINGS ONLY, and if he pulls a stunt like this with them and gets them into a conflict with the FCC, don’t be surprised if they don’t censor him too.
going back to the music, since that’s what this is all about, right?.. the hits daily double weakend report is in, with sales predictions for next week… neither adam nor allison are on it… bieber is low man on the list w/projections of 55-60k… so i take that to mean all others will come in under 55k or so… can someone much swifter than me do a quick calculation of the guesstimated percentage decrease of sales of 55k vs 198k?
http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/news/rumormill.cgi
ggdoorsfan
12/04/2009 at 9:02 am
Well, based on this then Adam will have over a 75% decline in his CD sells…and will totally drop off the top of the charts just like many Singers before him. But I’m sure this simple math test wasn’t the “important” aspect of the post.
ABC has never stated that Adam was in breach of any contract they had with him; no one has seen this purported “contract” or the terms set forth therein. Do presenters and performers on award shows even have contracts for their appearances? I highly doubt that Adam has breached any contract that he may have had with either ABC or Dick Clark Productions….in fact, that is probably one of the reasons why ABC is now saying that they intend to now have contracts that require performances to stick to rehearsal (which, IMO is going to be difficult if not impossible to enforce without running afoul of all sorts of other legal issues.)
72% drop from 198K to 55K
lol, are we psychic now tess? there are some who are tired of the other aspects swirling around adam, and want to get back to focusing on the music – since that’s the point of adam being in the game, no?
I hope Adam will eventually appear on THe View and I hope he gets to sing a song…I hope he sings Broken Open…those ladies will melt.
thanks kirsten…is this ‘’standard” compared to industry average, and is it ‘’standard” compared to second week decreases for idols…
72% is the exact percentage that John Mayer dropped from release week to second week.
I think it’s in the ball park from what I have read. Might be slightly higher. We will know more soon I suspect.
I think Kris was lucky his first drop was during Black Friday, so it softened the drop percentage, and it was I beleive at 59 percent.
Gah, I was hoping Alison would make the list. When is Kimmel? Is it this week?
using mayer, with his 72 percent drop from 1st to 2nd week, has he managed to remain in the top 10? does or did black friday provide any kind of a cushion from last week to this one… i ask because it’s hard trying to figure out if the increases/decreases we will see are ‘’standard”, or if the holiday season is kinder to some artists than others… this is a strange year…
I would think Black Friday actually might make the next week’s drop *larger,* since people went out and shopped a lot more than usual on Black Friday week, picked up all the albums they wanted that had already come out, drove buying levels way up, and then were kind of shopped out the week following — a drop from an inflated level to an “average” level is always gonna be bigger than a drop from an average level to another average level, right? …
Dunno if this is the way it generally works, but I think it makes sense to think that a lot of people will see a bigger percentage drop off this week …. I especially expect that Adam will because he’s getting very little radio play at this point, and that has to kick in if your sales are going to be sustained at all (unless people are getting your music some other way, such as off a tv show or something, or they already know you from the past and are buying you as an old standby favorite … and in his case they’re not) A 75-80 percent Adam dropoff wouldn’t surprise me this week. … That would still get him practically halfway to gold, though, so it’s not so bad.
Hoping that Kris’s radio play can keep sustaining him a little bit.
And especially hoping that they didn’t overestimate Allison’s first-week sales! Yikes.
Wish I could answer your question, I really don’t know much about it. Maybe Kirsten knows.
I think the drop from Black Friday to the week right after is considered a typically bigger one than normal (unless you’re SuBo or Andrea Bocelli, of course
) So Adam debuting the week of Black Friday meant he would likely take a harder hit because of the next week fall off. However, isn’t the week before Christmas (or Christmas week) another huge selling week?
ETA: Oh, and for your last point, yes, fare like SuBo and Andrea Bocelli is THE stuff to sell this time of year, hence the mad rush to get out Christmas type albums now – it’s safe, easy stocking stuffer material – and everyone wants another copy of Silent Night this time of year.
looks to be a nail biter for many next week then lucy… i’m looking forward to things getting back to ”normal” chart/sales wise…
‘fraid so. …. They just have to hope that they can keep people hearing their songs and keep the promotion going into the new year so that they keep selling in the several thousands, at least, a week, instead of dropping down to selling a thousand or less a week, which could easily happen for all three, I fear. Given Allison’s start, she could easily drop to selling hundreds per week, unless some kind of visibility for the music kicks in here, I think.
Yikes.
Chelsea Lately was sooooo funny last night in her defense of Adam Gay Lambert: this is what she wrote up today
http://www.eonline.com/on/ca/shows/chelsea/chelseaness/b155156_its_sexy_job_adam_lamberts_gotta_do_it.html
Oh- this is the wrong link, this is old -
I had to give in and watch GMA this morning as I was trying to cath a weather forecast and out local ABC weatherman is the most accurate . . .
anyway, they had on as a guest Ellen’s Portia and they showed photos from their wedding and pretty much advocated for gay marriage (she was on to promote her show which they also did briefly). All I could think of was that ABC and GMA must be making sure the GLAD members have nothing to quarrel about.
Ohttp://adamlamberttv.blogspot.com/2009/12/stop-burning-adam-lambert-at-stake.html
interesting – and darn it I cannot find the Chelsea forum from last night
Normally, drops are in the 60-70% range from first to second week. If there is a major change in the sales (e.g. Christmas or Black Friday week) one expects there to be a smaller drop going into the week and a larger drop coming out of that week.
A good indication if you are suffering a better or worse drop is to compare yourself to others dropping the same week. One must make allowances for the Freak of Sales that is SuBo and not compare oneself to her (looks like she’s going platinum in two weeks. Rare these days).
Second to third week drops are normally in the 40% range (again, if the second week is a Black Friday week, the drop to the third week will likely be larger). Fourth weeks drops are normally in the 25% range. Christmas is coming so that should lesson the drops in the next few weeks (this week is a more normal sales week, but the next two should be better than average sales week).
thanks kirsten… gonna save this, because i know i’ll be needing it down the line…
It aired in Canada.
Also, we know that ABC got fewer complaints than Dancing with the Stars causes, but we don’t know how many complaints the FCC might have gotten. (I know one of the numbers floating around a few sites was an FCC number, not an ABC number.)
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As for the HDD numbers, I’m wincing a bit for Adam (and Kris, for that matter), but I wouldn’t be too worried. WWFM seems to be doing well radio wise for so early in its release. It’ll build an audience, I’m sure.
Exactly. They’ll either build audiences gradually over time, or they won’t. How that happens, or doesn’t, is pretty much a mystery, seems to me.
I’ve never seen a good explanation for why some songs become top 10 hits and others that seem just as good (or bad!) to me go nowhere…. And if anybody actually knew the secret, whoever it was would probably be backing all the hit artists and none of the also-rans, and I don’t see anybody in that position!
As for Kris and Adam, it’s way too early to conclude anything, in either guy’s case, if you ask me. Neither of their singles has been out for all that long, they haven’t toured yet … etc.
I’ve got a two word response for the first half… Owl City.
As for the second… half. It is too early to conclude anything and I wish the journalist would give it time. Personally I think most people just tune out everything around them from Oct. 31st – Jan 1st. Unless one of these news agencies have a crystal ball… I really don’t want to hear from them. (oh, adding Alli to Adam and Kris)