Danny Gokey Meeting with 19 Records TODAY
Danny Gokey chatted with fans today at Comcast.net, about the tour, his music and his possible record deal. Oh, and it looks like those DWTS rumors aren’t true…
Picking up on what he told reporters in Milwaukee over the weekend about meeting with Sony Nashville this week:
Today I’m supposed to be talking with 19 Records. There’s something in the works right now, and I’m not going to say anything until it’s final. But there’s something going on behind the scenes.
Also, you can listen to Danny talk about his music and his possible record deal in an interview he did with a Milwaukee Christian radio station, 101 QLF this morning:
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About the kind of music he’d like to do:
 Ideally, I would like to do my own little fusion of R&B and Latin… but I would be open to do a modern-soul country.
Hm. Sound like he’d like to do the R&B/Latin thing, but it’ll be country if he signs with 19R and Sony Nashville. What the heck is modern-soul country?
For peeps who were speculating that Danny would be signing with one of Sony Nashville’s Christian labels, Danny continues to insist his first album won’t be Contemporary Christian:
I will not do a contemporary Christian album. I think maybe eventually, later in life, once I’m more established in my career. But at this point I will be a Christian who does mainstream music. I want to live by example and not just my words, because I don’t want to exclude anybody out my message in music.
I can’t see 19 signing an Idol to promote in a niche market, anyway. Not worth their effort–19 wants their Idols to move units–that’s only going to happen in a mainstream market like country.
Danny says he’s writing for his album:
I’m planning on writing a lot for my album. I’ve started a few things, but with that it takes trial and error. I might be able to write a song, but it might not fit in my album at this time. So it’s just a work in progress.
He’s also shooting down the Dancing with the Stars rumors:
I have not heard of anything. The way I look at it is like this: My first passion is my music and my foundation. That’s my priority. If in the future it works out to bring awareness to my foundation and my music, I would do it, but I don’t want to do any distractions at this point.
About the tour:
I’m singing four solo songs and doing a group song, but no duets.
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On top of all the excellent reasons others have given for why this might fail, I also feel this way: That an artist expresses something that is inside himself. That is where great music always came from and still does. Sometimes that artist is the songwriter, and the singer is the instrument that expresses the art.
Making Danny into a country singer smacks of phoniness. It sounds desperate and manipulative. He’s not a country singer. Can you imagine David Cook or David A. consenting to sing a country album for their debut cd? They knew what kind of music they wanted to do.
Danny seems like a guy who will easily sell out if he can make some money at it. All the talk about his “charity” don’t impress me. His wife wasn’t into country music either. The end doesn’t justify the means. A man who will compromise his musical integrity probably didn’t have any to begin with.
I was proud of Matt the other day when he said that he wants to do rock and not r&b. On the show he went along with the judges in their efforts to put him in a box, but I’m glad to see he’s reasserting himself as a musician and wants to do the music that moves him.
Danny = sellout in my opinion. It’s true that some country fans might like him because he’s conservative/christian but I will be surprised if he makes anything out of this. Even if he does, it will always be fake in my eyes.
Adam is 27. lol Danny is 29. So yes, Adam is approaching 30, but if you use that definition so is Kris, Lil, Matt, Anoop.. pretty much everyone except Allison….. LOL
If Kid Rock can do country and win an award for it I think Danny can too…. LOL
I said it before AI ended that Danny should go the country route, I could see it, and so can other people who LIKE Danny.
Danny fits the bill.
Country music is the type of music his type of music clearly fits. It is not phony.
He has the background that can fit and he sings sincerely from the heart. The 2 David’s could not because it was obvious one was rock and the other pop, the best fit for them.
There is nothing the least bit phony about Danny.
If that were true, he would have tried a bit harder than to appear clueless at times.
He is real and he is humble.
No doubt about that.
But we seem to be overlooking the obvious here.
A Christian singing country music is automatically a good fit in that market.
Country music is not just twangy. Its people who live conservative lives and have had hard knocks in life.
That is Danny.
He can express himself well going the country route.
Also I think that since Adam, Kris, and Allison, are signed, there is no guarantee. Its a gamble.
So with Danny, his odds might look better for success. The country route is wide open and the odds for success are better.
No one will ever convince me that Danny was on idol because of anything but his back-story. Ai played that one to death and Danny just kept adding fuel to that fire. And, my God, he is still doing it. I don’t think for AI nor for Danny, himself, has it ever been about the SINGING. Danny has always had an agenda, clueless as he may be.
Just because Danny made it through on AI to third place does not mean that he has any backing outside of the AI crazed fanbase (Lionel Richie not withstanding). Here is a guy who has no musical history, has not really sung outside of his church prior to AI, has very little vocal training, and IS NOT committed 100% to his place in the music industry. Paraphrasing Danny: I just want to sing to be an inspiration to people on how to cope with loss and I want to use my singing to bring money and attention to my foundation and to have it be a marketing tool for my eyeglass company, and I want everyone to know that I am so “religious” and I’ll respect a gay person if they give me respect back for my beliefs that it is “ungodly”.
Danny doesn’t have a clue that to become a marketable singer and recording artist it has to be a 24/7 job for quite a while. Just ask Cook and Archie who probably haven’t had more than a few days off from their career pursuit since their season was finished. Besides, Danny gets bored (by his own admission) at the drop of a hat. He is full of “bright” ideas but really doesn’t have the passion to succeed.
With respect to his fans, I don’t think Danny will succeed. To take any gig, now, is an admission that he is only after the material trappings and not really into the music. And to think that he can just “show up” and record a soul-country album and the world will embrace him is fantasy at its best.
Having a backstory does not make you a country singer.
Yes, well we will see.
Danny does have musical background and is a gifted talented singer. And with all due respect, Danny does give 100% and then some of himself.
He IS about the music, because you cannot sing with the heartfelt vocals he does, that those of us who are fans witness, and not be completely sincerely 100% about the music.
He has more than paid his dues and he does have a passion to give and be an inspiration.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with that!
But if you receive nothing from Danny, its simple, its not for you.
You will have more success with an unselfish person getting an opportunity for a singing career, than a singer who thinks it is just all about themselves.
Validation and blessing fall on those people.
Someone who wants to sing and give something from themselves is the reason for singing,thats its purpose. Music is just a vehicle through which to express.
The small percentage of people that do not like/hate Danny, does not have the ability to see his potential or appreciate the gift and talent he does possess.
Time will tell of course.
But I wouldn’t speak too fast about writing Danny off as failure.
None of these idols have a “clue” of being marketable. This music business is new to them and they have never signed a record deal before.
As for working 24/7, well I think Danny most likely has knowledge of a better work ethic than any of them. Being a working stiff in the real world gives the best experience of that. He worked day and night every day. Therefore Danny is quite capable of work.
To put Danny being bored in the right context, maybe he is bored when he is waiting around doing nothing.
Someone who is used to always doing something and working, can be easily bored.
That was the case behind the scenes at AI.
Hurry to get somewhere and then waiting waiting waiting.
If being bored is a horrible crime, then we are all guilty.
It happens to the best of people, especially creative people.
Thats not much of a fault.
But let us just add it to his extensive “fault” list.
Thank God he knows he is a sinner saved by grace and can therefore be accepting of everyone faults and all.
I wish all the best for him.
Anoop is 22, not going on 30! But, I agree that none of them are too old for anything!
Being about the music means not selling out and singing country when he obviously has a different direction he wants to take.
I think this is so funny. In the last couple of days I have read both Allison and Anoop talk about being bored. Anoop said he was “bored out of his mind.” Yet I have seen noone rushing to call these two “boring people,” “lazy people,” or “people who lack crativity.” I really think this is proof that people just love to bash Danny for the most mundane of reasons. For God’s sake, everyone gets bored. Geesh.
As far as going off on him if he takes this deal. I don’t think that his heart necessarily isn’t in this music. I think Danny’s heart can be in the SONG that he sings, and the SONG can fit in this genre better than any other, most likely. I would not call Danny taking the the only deal they will offer him, selling out. It would be a horrible decision not to take what he is offered at this point. Some of the songs Danny sang the best and with the most conviction are the heartfelt “country” songs that he sang.
I don’t know if Danny will be “successful”, it’s a long shot for any of them really. It’s a tough business. I don’t understand wishing failure on any of them. I really don’t.
As always, well said
Aek!
I took this quote from Tess on the headlines thread. I put it here because I think she makes a great point that fits this thread. Thanks Tess, because you realy hit the nail on the head here.(Although it used to be that the top two automatically got a contract, I think)
The same applies to Danny. Whether he actually takes the offer has yet to be seen. But it sounds as if someone thinks he is capable of doing this job and he has earned it.
As an aside, if Danny doesn’t take the offered contract, I can already see people backing off of the whole “sell out” label and calling him an idiot for not having any kind of business sense and a douche for not listening to TPTB who know a lot more about music and were trying to steer him in the path that would suit him best. Poor guy.
Danny can flat out blow (that means “sing”), so he’ll be fine doing whatever.
Making Rocker God Adam into a world pop/funk singer smacks of phoniness. It reeks of insincerity. It sounds so desperate and manipulative. After all, heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not a pop/funk singer! He’s a Rock God!! Or didn’t ya know? I mean, that’s what we’ve been told by virtually everyone! His future bandmates, Queen,…what will they think of his pop/funk music? What about Kiss, Bono and Zeppelin?! Who’s kiddin’ who?!
The end doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t justify the means. Just because acid rock died 25 years ago and world pop/funk is so big now is no reason to sell your musical soul to the hightest bidder! A man who will compromise his musical integrity probably didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have any to begin with.
And can you imagine David Cook consenting to sing a world pop/funk album simply becuz Gaga, Katy and Fergie did it up big in recent years? Heyall to that Naw! Of course not! David Cook was a mainstream rocker on the show. And he’s a mainstream rocker now! Indeed, he knew what kind of music he wanted to do on the show and after the show, and so when he delivered on what was expected of him–on what he led folks to believe via his Idol performances–on his solo debut, he proved himself to be an honest broker! How refreshing!
Unfortunately, Adam seems like a guy who will easily sell out if he can make some money at it. He is desperate to be famous–even moreso than he is at present, lol! And, omg, all that talk about his à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“coming outà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ doesn’t impress me. Not at all.
Adam = sellout in my opinion. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s true that some world pop/funk fans might like him because heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s liberal/gay, but I will be surprised if he makes anything out of this. Even if he does, it will always be fake in my eyes.
A number of posters here are predicting Danny will fail, but they’re not HOPING he will fail, at least not as I read them. Maybe some are, but their posts don’t say that.
I’m finding the discussions of different genres and their fans’ expectations very interesting. Music is a difficult business, whatever genre you’re in. It is not entirely a crapshoot, however. Talent counts; awareness of self and of the field counts; and hard work counts. The “crapshoot” aspect includes timing–what are other people doing, what’s ‘hot’ right now, how much will 19E promote the album–some of which can be seen and worked around by the astute musician, and some of which are completely out of their control.
When I consider Danny, I see: a very good voice; little awareness of how best to use that gift, and little apparent effort or interest in learning how to use it better; almost no awareness of the field as a whole; no awareness of the business aspects of a music career; and an apparent belief that all he has to do is show up at a studio and voila, he’ll have a hit record. That last bit is speculation but we’ve had ample evidence of the other items on the list.
I’m not saying I hope he’ll fail; but given what we’ve seen from him so far (generally oblivious to how much work it takes to succeed), I predict that he will not do well.
loosegoose,
I don’t understand why you think that Danny doesn’t think he will have to work hard. From everything I have heard and read about Danny, he worked doubly hard on the show, because he was unfamiliar with lyrics and song arrangement. He was described as being intense, as far as working on his songs during the competition. Ryan mentioned after one of his performances on the show that he had been “working on that into the night.” I never heard him say that about anyone else…ever.
There is nothing in Danny’s history, as far as what I have found out, that suggests he is lazy or does not understand that he will have to work hard in order to succeed. If you know of something, please let me know. As far as I can tell, it seems people make lots of assumptions about Danny that have no basis in reality.
Tess:
I agree. The very few people I know IRL who were rooting for Gokey did so only because they felt sorry for the widower. Now that the show’s over, there’s almost no buzz about Gokey outside of online idol fans. No one in the media or industry seems to care. But then, hardly anyone was interested in buying his itune songs either. Gokey is an easy sell as a reality show contestant, but apparently not convincing at all as a musical artist.
Personally, watching Gokey get knocked off the show was pretty entertaining for me. I admit, I laughed aloud. I see him as an immature arrogant bigot who is blessed with a good voice but not enough intelligence or motivation to do anything exceptional with it. I would rather see almost any of the other top 13 signed before Gokey, even though I don’t find most of them entertaining either. However, I think most of them deserve the opportunity more than Gokey, and would make more of it.
soamused & Tess,
How well do you know Danny? I wouldn’t judge a person and call him/her all sorts of names just based on what I saw from a TV realty show and read from a blog (no offense to MJ). The things you have said about Danny represent a very extreme & negative view on a person whom you barely know. I don’t agree with anything you said, I think they are baseless & hateful, and I don’t see there is any credibility there.
Speaking of Gokey, I’m vastly entertained by the party at twitter tonight, where the ontd kids have pushed #gokeyisadouche near the top of the trending topics. So funny, and couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.
soamused, is it proper to call a complete stranger a “bigot?” do we know his heart? and “stupid?” hmm. i dunno, i kinda prefer to live by the golden rule.
I wonder how long it will be before Gokey does something else stupid online for the ontd kids to jump on? I’m sure this is making a great impression on the 19R folks who are considering him. If they still are.