I will close comments on this thread if it devolves into a fan war.

Also, posters who refuse to abide by the guidelines eventually get banned. Those of you whose posts I’m deleting on a regular basis need to think about that.

One last thing: Make your point, but KEEP IT POLITE, please.

So excited! Crush is less than one day away.

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Be careful not to generalize about fanbases (one or a a few fans does not equal the entire fanbase) or lecture your fellow posters.

I just want to say that Archuletas adult fans who by the way are dads, moms, grandmas and grandpas and young adults does not swoon over or are smitten by a 17 year old boy. What we see is a musical talent worthy of praise and support combined with a humble, gracious and wonderful human being. I dont understand why if you are a fan of a 17 year old, people get the impression that you are smitten or acting like a teenage kid. I am one of his adult fan, to me I feel like he is my son and I appreciate the new
generation of person and music that he is and absolutely love how he performs and I want to see him succeed and live his dreams. When it comes to music, its universal except of course for Disney. You have to look at things at a different perspective.

Having said that, I do feel there are younger folks who have a wisdom beyong their years, as well as some older folks who are dummer than a rock.

This is the way I was in the beginning of idol (except for the fact that he blew me away with his first two songs) but honestly, I feel that Archie is deeper than your typical teenager. He has already dealt with two years of losing his dreams and described that as a depressing time in his life and worked hard to get it back. From what I have read, his work ethic is incredibly strong and from the way he has answered certain questions, I have always thought his logic far exceeded his age. I hear interviews of grown singers and I just want to roll my eyes at their partying ways and some of their lame answers. Just because they had a one night stand doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mean they have life experience. It just makes them more immature in my book.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not meaning this to refute your feelings btw, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s just how I came around to thinking. I hope his song is not too bugglegum pop also.

I get what you are saying but I must say that I get creeped out (not directed towards you) by adults- men and women) who are smitten by a17 year old boy. I teach teens and could never find anything that they do or perform swoon-worthy. I can see his appeal to tweens and teens, but not to adults-sorry.

Why are you embarrassed by it? The Archies worked hard to get him on the ballot – and the TCA staff has been very kind to us. I think all this category does is show support to David. I didn’t like the category at first, but now I don’t see the harm in it.

Frankly, I ‘m tired of David A’s fanbase being dissed. Cut us some slack. We’re not ruining his career.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m an Archie and I stayed the hell away from that TCA thing. Frankly, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m embarrassed by it.

Yeah. I think that award could definitely be taken as negative or positive, probably depending on how much of a “fanatic” for Archie you are yourself.

But as for embarrassment – The TCAs have so many categories, I’d be surprised if that one made it to the air. Then again, I’ve never watched the show before, so what do I know, I just can’t imagine how they’d have time to give so many awards in, what, 2 hours? Some stuff would have to be cut back, I’d imagine.

Although maybe they’d be scared enough of the fanatics to keep it in. Heh.

I still don’t like the TCA nomination brought about by the fanatics, and the campaigning because “David deserves it so much, so let’s vote” don’t they know they are voting for themselves and it’s not about David anymore. and imo David deserves better fans. Sadly, I guess the rassional ones are in the minority.

let the chips fall where they may.

Actually the program director for the radio encouraged the Archies to send requests . More listeners and hits for their website.

Well, that’s a horse of a different color right there. If the PD’s request for fans to call, then it should be open season. Things typically get problematic when they receive unsolicited requests from thousands of crazed fans outside of their listening area. That seems to be when they usually get annoyed. And, angry fan e-mails when they’re not playing what you want tend to be unpopular as well LOL.

And, in general my feelings about pestering radio PD’s and leaving hate messages for nasty reviewers, etc. are universal regardless of what fan base we’re talking about.

Actually the program director for the radio encouraged the Archies to send requests . More listeners and hits for their website.

I know a lot of Cook fans that have been requesting TOML nonstop on radio stations..I don’t see why it’s considered pestering if Archies do the same.

NO STREETEAMING ON MY BLOG. NO CALL TO ARMS TO PESTER RADIO STATION PDS.

Not only that, but me thinks enough pestering could cause them to misplace David’s single before Friday even gets here. This is a nice opportunity for David, and if fans want it to work out for him, it might be a good idea to just enjoy it and leave the poor radio peeps alone. They’re going to play the song, and stream the song, what more could any e-mail or phone campaigns get him anyway?

On a side note, I’m not an Archie fan at all, but I find the idea that Archie is being treated better than DC at this point laughable. As has been noted, they’re on two different labels with two different promo teams. Neither of which I’m sure is paying much attention to what the other is doing.

Will Archieà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s setlist for the tour change to accommodate the new single? Whatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the SOP with singles being released during the tour?

Archie won’t sing his new single on tour. Jordin released her single during the tour last year. Her set list didn’t change. She didn’t begin promoting the single until the tour was over.

That is the prob I have always had with Archieà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦I really dislike overt non-subtle inpirational songs and a young kid singing about relationships just doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t do it for me. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m a grown woman and want the lyrics the singer is singing to have real meaning and experience behind them.

Supposedly, the song is about whether or not he has a crush on a girl. The source is the same one that leaked pretty much everything Archie-related during the season. So it’s not a full-on relationship song, nor is it an inspirational song. And he’s certainly old enough to know about crushes and the insecurity that comes with attaching yourself to another person emotionally.

As for Cook, I don’t see him being shafted at all. I just think he’s doing what he said he was going to do–take his time. There’s no need to rush while TOML is still doing well. He’s getting endorsements, appearing on national TV specials, etc. Cook is being treated just fine. Somebody asked Archie about Cook before one of the shows and Archie said that Cook was busy all the time.

Plus, although 19 is involved with both Davids, they’re on different major labels. It’s Jive that’s setting up “Crush,” not 19. And Cook is on RCA, which does things differently. Jive doesn’t care about how Cook is promoted, and vice versa with Archie and RCA. This is classic Jive promotion, and it’s what Archie’s fans were hoping for when he signed with them.

Leave the modding to me. Don’t tell your fellow posters what to do. I get really cranky in the fall. It’s my least favorite Idol season. You don’t want to push me. .

find it funny that people say they canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t get into his music becuase heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s either too young or hasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t experienced something heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s singing about. there are many singers who have sung about issues that they did not specifically/personally go thru. but like a good actor, they draw on a similar feelings and à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“get intoà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  the song. so, thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s still meaningful emotion behind it. and, we just know archie so much more than the average singer. typically when you hear a song on the radio, you donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know that singers personality & background. if they sing it well & touch you, you believe it

you put that so well, thank you. i don’t understand it either. archie always talks about how he only wants to sing songs he connects with and he doesn’t understand the point of singing a song if you don’t connect with it. so i have no doubt there is emotion behind it and i feel like i can see him transform into a different person when he performs….and i am completely captivated when when that happens!

i’m so happy for archie and find it funny that people say they can’t get into his music becuase he’s either too young or hasn’t experienced something he’s singing about. there are many singers who have sung about issues that they did not specifically/personally go thru. but like a good actor, they draw on a similar feelings and “get into” the song. so, there’s still meaningful emotion behind it. and, we just know archie so much more than the average singer. typically when you hear a song on the radio, you don’t know that singers personality & background. if they sing it well & touch you, you believe it. so, here’s hoping the doubters can just hear archie with an open mind and enjoy his immense talent. as for his youth – how many major talents started when they were teens? too many to count.

to me, archie can feel any song he sings & make me feel it as well. add in that incredible voice and i’m hooked!

ummm – yea… i am a fervent archie maniac, like you couldn’t tell.

Alright Archies… let’s show our love and pride in David by calling, emailing and supporting the airplay and promotion on Z100 for “Crush” until this song is #1!! Jive seems to really be bringing out the big guns in their support and committment to David. There is a HUGE buzz on the Internet for this single, and nothing would be sweeter than to see our David’s talent validated from sea to shining sea!!! Can’t wait till Friday!!! :jittery_tb:

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NO STREETEAMING ON MY BLOG. NO CALL TO ARMS TO PESTER RADIO STATION PDS. It belongs on your fansites, NOT ON MY BLOG.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m a grown woman and want the lyrics the singer is singing to have real meaning and experience behind them.

This is the way I was in the beginning of idol (except for the fact that he blew me away with his first two songs) but honestly, I feel that Archie is deeper than your typical teenager. He has already dealt with two years of losing his dreams and described that as a depressing time in his life and worked hard to get it back. From what I have read, his work ethic is incredibly strong and from the way he has answered certain questions, I have always thought his logic far exceeded his age. I hear interviews of grown singers and I just want to roll my eyes at their partying ways and some of their lame answers. Just because they had a one night stand doesn’t mean they have life experience. It just makes them more immature in my book.

I’m not meaning this to refute your feelings btw, it’s just how I came around to thinking. I hope his song is not too bugglegum pop also.

I’m looking forward to hearing Archie’s new single. The title worries me a little (I hope it’s not too “bubblegum pop”), but maybe I’ll be pleasantly surprised. At any rate, I wish Archie the best!

You make a very good point here:

“…but Archie will need to do grown up music to get me to buy his stuff.”

That is the prob I have always had with Archie…I really dislike overt non-subtle inpirational songs and a young kid singing about relationships just doesn’t do it for me. I’m a grown woman and want the lyrics the singer is singing to have real meaning and experience behind them.