David Cook – FUSE No. 1 Countdown – VIDEO
Interesting interview with David Cook from yesterday’s FUSE TV No. 1 Countdown show.
David’s eclectic music taste, the influence of his Dad on his music, and learning multiple intruments. He says he’s a “terrible” drummer. Heh.
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OMG, just the mere memory of fans running backwards to SPREAD CANCER in response to seeing pictures of DC not doing anything with the scene queen made me chuckle again. Good times indeed.
I actually find some of those posts to be pretty amusing/illuminating reads, and I agree that there’s unfortunately probably a lot of truth in them. I find nothing wrong with snarking on the “idol tard” phenomenon, and DC does have his share of crazy fans… but at the same time, that blogger just bugs the hell out of me because he/she is so meanspirited that I can only take the comment sections in small doses. I don’t mind the premise of the site, because by all means, hate on AI and snark on the crazy fans, particularly if you do it in a funny way, but that idletard blogger isn’t a very good/witty writer and only comes off like a jackass. I don’t need to agree with you to read your blog, but at least try to amuse me with your writing. Sorry, meanspirited bloggers who are not even very witty have nothing redeeming about them, and are a pet peeve of mine. Besides, reading blogs by people who seem to hate life makes me uncomfortable, because I start feeling bad for them, when I’d rather stay in my happy place reading funny blogs. I like topidol better, but she doesn’t cover the crazy fan stuff as much (probably because she sounds like she has a life outside of hating AI alumni and/or their fans…)
I don’t think Idletard type stuff matters until a mainstream news outlet picks up the story. For now, its just something for the internet idol crowd to feel superior to each other about.
Still I must say the whole anti-Idol phenomenon is adding an interesting dimension to things. So now there are not only crazy OTT fans within fanbases, fanwars with so-called rivals, a multitude of idol bloggers and message boards each with their own cultures and cliques (for the show and for the contestants themselves), and VFTW for those dedicated to hating the show, there are now anti-Idol fan boards. Its a whole cottage industry based off one cheesy karaoke show.
and another article about Cookie http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/article/20090701/COMMONGROUND/907090301/1085/opinion
The Idletard threads amuse me, although I also agree that the actual mod/blogger is just mean spirited and lacks any real wit. The most amusing thing is that the people who make their lovely comments on the Cook threads are most frequently Cook fans who attended multiple concerts themselves and are planning on more. And, no, I’m not buying that they are just going to watch the “tards” and document behavior.
Thanks for posting that link to that article.
I guess I have been the source of amusement in this thread. :glurps_tb:
I was trying to be nice and not give reasons for my change of heart. I still like Dave, just not in the way that I did. I know celebs have “off nights.” But this is the second time that I have seem him be “on” for cameras and then a different way with fans. The first time was during the idol tour. I’m sure many fans will disagree with me because they had a better experience. This was my experience though and it wasn’t a good one. Another reason is some of the fans. It’s fine there are many other idols to support. It’s ok, you can go back to making fun of me now.
I didn’t think anyone was mocking you, kimberann. Sorry if it seemed that way.
and Sorry you had a bad experience.
I know Cook isn’t perfect & I will still be a fan, despite your bad experience, since I’ve read many other good accounts of encounters, and for other reasons.
I assume by “for cameras” you mean David on stage in his concerts. No offense but a concert ticket entitles one to a good and engaging show by the performer, and by almost all accounts that is exactly what David and his band deliver. Contact with the band members off stage is not part of the ticket price and should not be expected. Bonus if it does but David does not owe anyone personal time off stage. That expectation is an unfortunate left over from the Idol tours. With most non idol acts, official controlled meet and greets are the only way to have contact with the bands and I think this is the direction that David is going. This is normal.
IMHO, things always end badly if people go the Saint Dave route and place him on a pedestal. I am a fan and can probably have a shot being the #1 fan with all the information about him stored in my brain, but I always roll my eyes and laugh whenever I read about David being the tender-hearted, do-gooder. I’m sure he’s nice but he’s just a regular dude. I am nice too (I think, hee) but I can be pretty mean when I want to too. Layers and all, y’know.
Yeah, that Itoltard person seriously sucks and can’t hold a candle to the much cooler Top Idol, IMHO. She actually went to the Cook show in Northampton, and while she had some rather harsh things to say about a few of the fans, she loved Cook and the band, and she wasn’t “too cool for school” to say so.
Honestly if somebody has finally taken DC off the pedestal and is retreating to a more normal and realistic level of fandom I think that should be applauded, regardless of the reason. The expectation that he’s always supposed to be nice, accessible, and perfect is a set up. Bursting that bubble is the first step towards becoming healthy.
I don’t think there is ANYTHING wrong with that, kimberann, so no need to feel bad– liking an artist for his music without thinking he’s the best human being in the world is a totally normal thing
. Keep on keepin on. I also don’t think anyone was making fun of you, so I hope you don’t feel targeted or mocked. Some of these DC threads just tend to get snarky.
Post-ho’ing a bit, but I checked out those pictures from the acoustic CBTM radio gig (wants audio/video, now!), and may I just say, WTF is going on with Neal’s look? Here we are snarking on DC’s shitty hair for 3 pages, but no one comments on Neal’s grampa hat and weird stache…?
Aw kimberann, sorry if the jokes seemed personal. We can get carried away sometimes. No worries.
Idletard can be mean, but I think some of those people actually admit to being cook fans. Isn’t the whole premise of the site that it’s fans who turn in info on other fans? They are supposed to be so disgusted with the behavior within their own ranks that they want to “out” it. So no, I don’t think they are pretending not to like him, some of them openly admit to liking him.
The admin- hell the site itself – is an offshoot of VFTW so yep, the tone is harsh. Its now become part of the idol fan experience, for better or worse.
I think the DC OTT fans will catch a break for awhile because of the epic L.Anne Carrington saga being written about on Idletard. It will soon be the stuff of AI tard legend.
Kimberann, please don’t take any of what I said about OTT fandom as making fun of you. You were really the best kind of fan for David as far as I was concerned — just very positive without putting any of the other Idols down. You never seemed to get caught in that crazy Idol fanwarring stuff that always seems to accompany fandom of any Idol. The stuff I was writing about insane fandom was really pointing fingers at my own OTT-ness as well as things that I’ve seen other fans do. Sorry you had a not-too-great experience with David. Hopefully you can still enjoy his music though, even if you’re not such a big fan of him personally anymore.
Aw, Kimberann, sorry if you took it personally. Sometimes we take something and run with it, I know my comments weren’t meant to be hurtful to you personally. We just like to snark
He was sweet as can be when I met him, but I’m sure he’s not nice all the time… I’m nice most of the time but if you caught me on a bad day I’m pretty bitchy
. I’m sorry you were unlucky to have a bad experience twice! I do think the meetings at the buses should stop – it’s an offshoot of Idol expectations I think, and at least safety wise if nothing else it’s time for it to go away.
R/e Idletard – I do lurk over there sometimes and some of the people who comment are very funny. But the blogger’s need to continually have nothing more to say than “He’s bald and fat” isn’t impressive. Come up with something snarky, I’d enjoy that much more
I don’t think anyone really thinks any musician is a saint- you have to get some angst for songs somewhere, right? Honestly, IMO the true fans are the people that admire the music and appreciate the moments of awesomeness that happen without any exaggerated expectation. Yeah, talk of hair and “arm-porn” is good fun (I do enjoy the occasional dip in the shallow end!), but at the end of the day, its the music and the pleasure it brings that matters most :happy_tb:
I’d also like to put in my application as Mr. Cook’s #1 fan. And if not that, maybe I could be his #1 security gal/bouncer/strong arm person. Heh! I could take down any crazy stalker chick who wanted to get up close and personal with my DC. (I had two boys and am good at wrestling anyone to the ground – it’s all in the leverage, yah know.)
If I had been around, there’d be no way that the alledged stalker bus chick would have gotten close to him once, let alone twice, as security dudes have alluded to. :nono_tb: Come on management team! Put me on the payroll! Then DC would have been able to come out and meet Kimberann at Okiey. And she still would at least be your #2 fan, behind me, of course. :wub_tb:
Ooh, you have additional dish on this saga? I’m morbidly intrigued by it. heh.
The stalker girl who got on the bus was in Oklahoma, so the fans that were there did not get to meet David Cook because of that incident I think. In Tulsa the band did another gig after the show and because of that did not meet fans after the show. I have been to 3 shows of Davids and the EEB and have not met with him or the band at any of them. I did not expect to meet them. I do not expect him to be “on” at all times especially once the show is over and a stalker chick has invaded his space. People are people and they are not perfect. YMMV
I think we are just having fun with this thread in general, not one person’s comment per se. It’s really turned into a hair discussion more than anything else! LOL! We are just being silly as we attempt to be DC’s #1 fan, or #11, or #12! It’s all in good fun!
Considering all that David has had to endure from fans, he has made himself extremely accessible whenever possible. I attended a very small show, in a very small town, which of course, made it easier for David and the guys to come out and mingle a bit. But even in Chicago, during the AI tour, with some fans being so rude right in front of his face, shouting for the other beloved Idol, he maintained his grace and composure, in a way I would have never been able to. I also agree with the poster who said David really owes people attending his concert a great show and nothing more. I think the reason I have always had a great time, is that I never go with any expectations of “meeting” him after.
I don’t refer to him as St. David, or put him on a pedestal, but I do have enormous respect for his talent and his participation and contributions to a cause he so dearly believes in. Ok – I guess I do have him up on a pedestal just a wee bit!
When I buy a concert ticket I am entitled to a good concert. Nothing else. The idea that David Cook or any star is required to make themselves accessible after the show is ridiculous. Most do, simply because they are nice people or (more likely most of the time) they know it is good business. But buying a ticket and then feeling entitled to meet the star is OTT fan behavior at its worst.
Behind the times on the hair discussion, but I don’t know if I see a tour stylist in Dave’s immediate future. It’s an expensive luxury, they logistically still don’t have a lot of room for that kind of thing, and plus, I just don’t see him having the patience to get his hair professionally did every day, lol. I’m down with the hats, he does his best and he’s Dave, what more could a fan want?
Plus I have a suspicion there’s a fully functioning salon on that bus run by Neal and Andy already. Neal in particular appears to be a mean hand with Hombre Solutions, wouldn’t surprise me if he occasionally got hold of Dave’s hair too. Yeah, I’m on Team Neal.
On the fandom issue: I agree with others that he has been as gracious and kind as humanly possible in many difficult circumstances. Unfortunately because of the invasion of his bus — currently his home — and some other crazy fan behavior, I think David does have to be more careful now. I think he’ll still come out to meet fans, but I think the security conditions will be different, and rightfully so, when he does after this. I’d be more inclined for him to hire real tour security than a stylist if they’re going to add any more people on those buses, frankly.
Reminder:
I just deleted a bunch of posts. I would suggest that you allow your fellow posters to have an opinion without giving them the third degree, and then mocking her like she’s not here. I’m not talking about the posts that were talking about the fandom in general, but the posts that were directed straight at Kimberann.
There are some things that are better just to let go.