Please don’t tell me I can look forward to more grunge. Grunge and technopop ruined music for most of the 1990s if you ask me.

Or Pete Wentzà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ penis? Those donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have anything to do with the music or the concert, but yet they manage to slip those little facts in.

:lol_tb: Sorry for the post hoing, and I’m sure this is off topic, but am I the only one whose mind went there? Yeah? Okay then. Still hilarious. Thanks for the lolz.

However, I appreciate the replies because I was worred posting it that Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d just get COOK OMG 111!! greatest Idol ever.

COOK OMG 111!!! greatest Idol ever!!!!1111

Didn’t want you to be disappointed pj. :innocent1_tb: Seriously, though, I found that review interesting. It reminded me of that interview piece EW did right before Cookie’s record dropped, written by, oh damn, the awesome writer who pointed out the odd TWIK phenomenon that prompted one to fist pump and say “You stick it to the man with your Collective Soul ballad!” during last season’s finale. Basically, he talked about the dichotomy of Cook that RCA would have to sell to the record buying public: the well adjusted midwestern family guy who writes sincere, introspective, heart on the sleeve anthemic lyrics, and the dude who likes to rock his face off and can wail like a mo fo. Would music consumers be able to reconcile those two images that many rock music fans would insist should be mutually exclusive? So far, the answer is yes and no. Some appreciate the contradictions that identify Cook artistically and get that while the danger that’s inherrent in a personality on the edge might be missing, it’s replaced with a very palpable emmotional depth that comes from a different place, yes, but is just as interesting. There’s raw pain and a real honesty to Permanent, for example, that requires a level of fearlessness to broach. And since the record has sold well, I would say there are a bnuch of people who get that POV. Meanwhile, guys like this concert reviewer acknowledge Cook’s talent but temper it with observations like, “Technically, he sings rock music well, and he’s entertaining enough, but where is the danger? Where’s the tortured dark soul who always seems thisclose to a bad overdose or suicide attempt, and edgy lyrics that push the envelope? This is the 90s rock image that I hold dear.” It’s a valid and time honored point of view, but IMO (and the opinion of the aforementioned EW writer) a slightly myopic one. I mean, I love me some Weiland, too, but Weiland is Weiland, and Cook is Cook, and neither, IMO, are anything like Christian rock. I also think it’s kind of ironic that he used STP as a touchstone for 90s grunge music, because STP were long thought of as pretenders to the grunge throne by critics despite the commercial popularity of songs like Plush, Interstate Love Song, and Vasoline.

This wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t a one time mishap, those in charge of Kellieà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s career (Sony and 19s Simon Fuller) pull this same type of crap with all of Kellieà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s concerts.

Maybe I’m being naive here but why would Sony and 19/Simon Fuller be perfectly accommodating regarding publicity for David’s concert there and not for Kellie? I can understand if a label or management company have that type of setup in general, and it’s not like local media wanting to take some pictures would cost 19 or Sony any money.

Oh Kellieà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s people got things sorted alright, just the way they wanted it, little to no publicity for Kellie or her concert.

This wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t a one time mishap, those in charge of Kellieà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s career (Sony and 19s Simon Fuller) pull this same type of crap with all of Kellieà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s concerts. This is probably just the first time your reading about it as most of our media are a bunch of frauds just like these dirtbags down at Sony and American Idol and wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t tell you the truth when it comes to the corruption and fraud taking place in our music industry.

Sadly, I think it happens at every major label.

This wasn’t a one time mishap, those in charge of Kellie’s career (Sony and 19s Simon Fuller) pull this same type of crap with all of Kellie’s concerts. This is probably just the first time your reading about it as most of our media are a bunch of frauds just like these dirtbags down at Sony and American Idol and won’t tell you the truth when it comes to the corruption and fraud taking place in our music industry.

“I just finished listening to NPR do a 30 minute piece on the return of early nineties grunge, which might be an even easier transition for someone like Cook and possibly even DAUGHTRY for their second cds.”

I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see much similarity between Cookà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s and Daughtryà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s current albums and early 90s grunge. If anything, they sound more post-grunge, which is a genre that has been around for a few years now. Potentially their second albums will lean more in the grunge direction, but as of now they both sound a lot like what is already playing on Hot AC and, to some extent, on pop.

I believe you just paraphrased some of my quote. Like I said, they may have a more seamless transition back to their earlier roots for their second cd release if the neo-grunge sound takes root. I was not referring to their current recordings.

PS – this is the link: http://music.starnewsonline.com/default.asp?item=2358425

You can read the article I’m talking about by clicking on John Stanton’s name in the Cook article or if I copied it right you should be able to see the article in the link below.

http://music.starnewsonlive.com/default.asp?item=2358425

In any case, performing in front of 6K plus and getting such a great reaction to his own music must have been pretty awesome for Cook.

The one thing he did get kinda wrong (in an objective way as opposed to, you know, ‘it’s just his opinion’ way) was his questioning the fact that the show was soldout. My understanding from people who attended is that they did sell out the entire venue but that, at the last minute (last day, I think), the venue decided to open up some view-obstructed seats for any fans willing to pony up the cash. Those were probably the “hundreds” of seats he saw that were empty.

I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t get what all the fuss is about with the review. Reviwers are always biased and snarky about people- even the ones they like.

I don’t think Billboard blows smoke up people’s ass–I think they’re attempting to be actual, real journalists. They actually don’t give everything a good review. They don’t go looking for something irrelevant to snark on, but aren’t afraid of pointing out weaknesses. For singles they have a system whereby they mark songs they think will go top 50 in their format with an arrow, and mark songs that are great, regardless of hit potential, with a star. Some songs get no designation at all, indicating that they probably won’t hit and they’re not that fabulous either. I’ve seen written reviews that will say a song or album or concert didn’t live up to what it could have been and, frankly, that’s not all that unusual. It’s not overly snarky or negative like some web “journalists” believe they need to be in order to draw an audience.

What you’re talking about sounds more like a blog-culture review with very little journalistic integrity. I’m not saying you can’t find that fun or interesting, but IMO, that’s not real journalism. And to be a legitimate concert/ album/ song review, it needs to be real journalism. Everything else is just some dude’s opinion, which may be fun to read if the writer is a good writer in general, or you just like reading snark whether it’s well written or not, but I’m not going to call it a newsworthy review. That’s the biggest problem with blog-culture. Real journalism can get lost when everybody and their brother can print what they want–and even online versions of newspapers are now guilty of passing off quickly-written blogs as actual news.

Not that there weren’t snarked-out biased reviews prior to the Internet–but if people knew the reviewer was like that then they also knew it wasn’t worth much in terms of providing insight.

I just finished listening to NPR do a 30 minute piece on the return of early nineties grunge, which might be an even easier transition for someone like Cook and possibly even DAUGHTRY for their second cds.

I don’t see much similarity between Cook’s and Daughtry’s current albums and early 90s grunge. If anything, they sound more post-grunge, which is a genre that has been around for a few years now. Potentially their second albums will lean more in the grunge direction, but as of now they both sound a lot like what is already playing on Hot AC and, to some extent, on pop.

I think there are different ways to be unbiased. A review is supposed to be informative. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s supposed to tell people how the artist performs. When somebody goes in there and is too blinded by their own musical tastes to give the artist a fair chance, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a meaningless review. The artist didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have any shot to get a decent reviewà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’regardless of how he or she did. Billboard is great at putting themselves in the shoes of the intended audience, and any bias is expressed as a member of that audience. Would a pop fan like this, since this is a pop concert?

I don’t get what all the fuss is about with the review. Reviwers are always biased and snarky about people- even the ones they like. I personally love reading reviews about my faves. Especially the bad ones. Like, I want to see how bad they can get. It’s always interesting to see different people’s perspectives.

Have you read other artists reviews? Why should they mention Kelly’s weight in an album review? Or Kanye’s tantrums? Or Pete Wentz’ penis? Those don’t have anything to do with the music or the concert, but yet they manage to slip those little facts in. It happens with everyone in every genre. It’s not about Idol, Cook…. or Archuleta, for that matter. Critics are always going to put their own spin on things- and get “personal.” That’s why reviews are interesting to read. And frankly, I don’t want that to change, so they can just blow smoke up people’s arses, ala Billboard.

He believes that the 80s music and its fashion (skinny jeans, etc) has reached its peak ( and has turned to Eurotrash Lady Gaga) and will now trend down and by next year will phase out a bit more to be replaced by a stronger neo-grunge influence.

Oh, please please. I’m so ready for 80s Redux to be over.

I listen to a lot of music, a lot of genres, and I’m not ashamed of any of them. A little rock, alternative, jazz, new age, classical, country, Indian, I’m open to music that speaks to me. I think it’s sad when people are self-conscious about what music they like and feel the need to show that they are musically-correct and acceptably cool. It gets in the way of pure enjoyment of music for what it is, communication from one person to another.

Oops, headlines, headlines. So, I hope Miley helps Allison get more votes. Still don’t like the hair though. I guess since I graduated high school before these contestants were born makes me old………………

It looks like this yearà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Queenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  knows some moves. Cute video of her dancing on stage while Cook plays. I think she made quite and impression on Cook. LOL!

That dancing is hilarious. I laughed when she put down her crown, thinking, what the hell is this chick going to do? Then of course, I saw why the crown could have been an impediment.

Hmmm, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not quite sure what to make of the 90à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s music comment since I never followed it. I like the idea of DC being part of the first wave of something though.

cookcricket, DC has a very 90’s grungepop sound, which came from the Seattle bands like Soundgarden/Pearl Jam/Alice in Chains. I don’t know if I would call David part of the first wave of a revival though as that sort of sound emerged quite soon after the scene in the late 90’s. Well, that is what I thought with Creed and Nickelback. DC probably has a bit more of a pop edge to that though. I mean, at least from my point of view. In context I can see what the reviewer is getting at.

Every good southern festival has a big ass beauty pageant to go along with it.

It looks like this year’s “Queen” knows some moves. Cute video of her dancing on stage while Cook plays. I think she made quite and impression on Cook. LOL!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A-4LV0s-U8