Loved the band intros. Loved how DC teased Kyle about being the only band member he hadn’t known for years. “I mean . . . he’s from Orange County!” Heh.

Maybe they are focused more on album sales than single sales, and like you said, they are waiting closer to the album sales to push the single. I don’t think Adam’s career is over due to Itunes’ ¦.. I mean, I expect that type of prediction from VFTW but thats about it. lol

having read all the idol veterans in a few blogs, yes.. RCA’s always been focused on album sales rather than single sales. While Jive’s always focusing on single sales more..

http://www.mmr247.com/mmrweb/Reports/Reg/EMD.asp?SOngID=1687846&NumDays=1

and I dont see him getting 1015 spins last week. This is what I see

Period Aud Spins AC HAC COU POP
11/6/2009 9.434 290 0 130 0 160

You’ve got the number of days set to 1 (last number on the link). That’s the number of spins he got yesterday.

Here is the 7 day link: 7 Day Rolling QuickCut

I don’t undertsand the numbers in the bottom row here, it doesn’t seem to add up?

Those are total over the life time of the single.

Sorry Kristen, I didn’t see that it was divided into weeks.

http://www.mmr247.com/mmrweb/Reports/Reg/EMD.asp?SOngID=1687846&NumDays=1

and I dont see him getting 1015 spins last week. This is what I see

Period Aud Spins AC HAC COU POP
11/6/2009 9.434 290 0 130 0 160

I don’t undertsand the numbers in the bottom row here, it doesn’t seem to add up?

RCA has said that they are not pushing FYE on radio until next week (reported in HHD today) ‘” looked like they are trying to have the single peak when the album released on 11/23/09 ‘” no before.

How are you defining “peak”? Peak in single sales? Ranking? Number of units moved? I’m not sure having one week of 100K single sales is going to make the difference in the long run.

If you mean radio, what do you mean? Radio has a cumulative effect. It generally takes re-hearing the song several times to get people to want to buy it. Plus, even if it has an epic week next week, that’s only a spincrease of about 1200 and that’s a pretty low place to peak on the pop chart. One would hope that it keeps going up (plus it would be rare to suddenly gain 1200 spins one week and that to be your peak position on the chart…ie you start falling off from there). Radio doesn’t turn on a dime.

So, I’m totally confused.

Adam might end up with around 300 spins for the first week

The first week of release is now over and there were 216 spins.

If we look at the data for Kris, he needed 1015 spins to enter the top40 chart, so if we give Adam 2 more weeks with the current pace he should be there.

No, he’s going to have to pick up the pace to reach top 40 in two weeks. That’s raw spins across all formats.

LLWD has 1125 spins in Pop, but only 1015 spins on the published charts. Some stations are not counted on the published charts (Mediabase cannot monitor all stations, so it creates a basket of representative stations for the published charts). 110 of the spins are on stations that do not make up part of the published charts.

Currently, FYE has 108 spins in pop and 102 spins in HAC (and 1 spin in Active Rock and 5 spins on Rhythmic). If we assume that you need about 1100 raw spins per week to chart in Pop and FYE continues at it’s current spincrease (I think it will pick up next week with more adds), it will take 10 more weeks to reach Top 40 (or around January 15th).

Adam might end up with around 300 spins for the first week. If we look at the data for Kris, he needed 1015 spins to enter the top40 chart, so if we give Adam 2 more weeks with the current pace he should be there. But we also have the AMA’s in 2 weeks.

I believe you are mixing the numbers there. Those 1015 LLWD needed to enter top 40 were for the week and on the pop format, the around 300 spins FYE has now are total spins for every format. What counts for a song to enter the top 40 are the weekly spins in that format.
FYE has 216 spins total for the week, 108 on pop (900 to go to get to those 1000). It added 10 more spins to its weekly total yesterday, 6 of them on pop. With the current pace (10-20 per day) it would need a lot more than 2 weeks. But next week, with more and new adds, the song should start getting more daily spins.

Seems the spin data has been updated. This means (I think) that FYE got 43 spins since yesterday. I think the numbers look good.

Adam might end up with around 300 spins for the first week. If we look at the data for Kris, he needed 1015 spins to enter the top40 chart, so if we give Adam 2 more weeks with the current pace he should be there. But we also have the AMA’s in 2 weeks.

Looking at the numbers I don’t think RCA’s strategy is bad. The single might even pick up more spins and end up in top40 before 2 weeks and that wont hurt.

Second, Michael Jackson was in the biz for 40 years..and died a well publicized and tragic death. Check back with me in 40 years and we will see if a newcomer from today can match some of his numbers.

You honestly think a current artist is good enough and appeals to enough people to sell over 100 million records for one album??? Someone will undoubtedly outsell MJ one day because there is always someone out there better than you, but I think it’ll take more than 40 years and the music industry will have to change. Its not just about the economy, its also about the lack of originality. Every time someone original comes around they get panned for not being “mainstream” enough. We have to get rid of that mentality in my judgment before we will accept another MJ.

RCA has said that they are not pushing FYE on radio until next week (reported in HHD today) ‘” looked like they are trying to have the single peak when the album released on 11/23/09 ‘” no before.

FYE has been for sale for 4 days ‘” and we actually have no idea what the sales look like. So it seems a bit early to say ’slow and disappointing.’  I recommend waiting until there is a week of real promotion before coming to any conclusions.

I completely agree. I don’t understand the “gloom” predictions when it hasn’t even been a full week yet. Plus, a lot of sales went through the AO website. I know I pre-ordered the deluxe album myself and got the single download. I’m sure I’m not the only one. Maybe they are focused more on album sales than single sales, and like you said, they are waiting closer to the album sales to push the single. I don’t think Adam’s career is over due to Itunes….. I mean, I expect that type of prediction from VFTW but thats about it. lol

We should definitely wait until his promotion kicks in.

Also got yelled at for cracking up at 4:30 a.m. over Kirsten’s Top 14 list. Twas priceless (which is always more than $14.00). I’m really unconcerned with tattoos. I’m sure there’s a meaning to the 14 for David. I’m not sure we’ll ever know based on the fact that we’ve spoon fed him so many media bites that may or may not be juicier.

I have a daughter who started piercing herself at age 13. By age 18, she has no recognizable scars from her earlier forays, but she’s still not tattooed. She absolutely recognizes the forgiveness of a piercing but that a tattoo lives forever, even after it’s gone. She’s just not ready to make that commitment, but I think she will someday. She does understand, however, that for her field, her tattoos could never be in the forefront. She knows that the piercings she’s had are so very much easier to go away. Heh, she told me that one of her friends takes the gauges out of his ears for going to work and takes that big old hole and wraps it around the entirety of his ear. That made me lol so hard. I’ve heard some people say that they get sleeves and such so that they could never get a 9 to 5 job. I don’t know how relevant it is anymore, but I do give them credit for their commitment.

I find Carly’s Geisha sleeve breathtakingly beautiful. I’m also unconcerned with people inking themselves (though I, too, tend not to want to see DC’s eyeball tattoo–creepy). I’m just a bit unconcerned about this stuff. It wasn’t the thing when I was their age…in fact it may have been a bad thing. It’s different now. Hell my 59 year old sister has 3 tattoos that she’s gotten since age 50. She’s working on what the 4th will be.We got a tweet from David saying surprises haven’t been unveiled yet. I’m hoping we will get one of said surprises Nov. 18 or 19 (the two final shows I’m attending).I’m also glad he doesn’t find a new tattoo to be a surprise for his fans. Just saying.

Recession is a bloody thing- weaker corporations will crumble, at same time the astute and aggressive ones will prevail.

kariann
11/07/2009 at 1:56 am
I wonder how Ashley Newton’s departure from RCA would affect chances of Adam’s album being added to radio play lists given that this is part of his responsibility. Ditto with his video. Could be that this is the reason why Adam’s single launch is having a slow and disappointing start. Maybe at this time they are still reorganizing.

A&R (Artist and Repertoire) is responsible for finding talent, and for the creative and recording management. A&R supports marketing and promotion, but A&R is not actively involved in managing these functions.
Regarding Ashley Newton, his team already did a termondous job for Adam — they are the people responsible for making the arrangements for all the collaborators.

RCA has said that they are not pushing FYE on radio until next week (reported in HHD today) — looked like they are trying to have the single peak when the album released on 11/23/09 — no before.

FYE has been for sale for 4 days — and we actually have no idea what the sales look like. So it seems a bit early to say “slow and disappointing.” I recommend waiting until there is a week of real promotion before coming to any conclusions.

(and hello glasses!)

# Surrounded by greatness! http://twitpic.com/okzncabout 1 hour ago from Echofon

(hi Cale!)

http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/news/newsPage.cgi?news07824m01

Ashley Newton is headed for the Columbia Records Presidency, a post he will assume sometime before the end of year.

I think Ashley Newton did a great job in choosing songs and recruiting musicians for Adam’s album. Too bad he is leaving RCA in 2 months. Although I think it’s mainly marketing department’s job to promote FYE the single and the album, A&R is also highly involved in the process and Newton’s leave def affects the whole roll-out.

I saw a concert banter video a while back (I can’t remember which concert) where he talked about being on Wikipedia and that his album DCTR had sold 1 million+ and that it listed Analog Heart as selling 1,114. He repeated that number several times and said “I might have that tattooed somewhere.” That was the first thing that I thought of when I saw it. Course, since it doesn’t say 1114, I could be completely wrong. Just a theory.

LMAO.

But, true, probably too expensive for 19M. Plus, who wants to go to the hassle of finding a barcode reader everytime you need to communicate with one of your ‘employees’ . ‘You, number 14, it’s your turn to record a Kara song. Get in the booth or you get the hose again’ 

This and the list is too much Kristen. Im supposed to be asleep and Im cracking up. Not good.
But honestly LMAO

Aw, yeah, I agree ‘” and I love their friendship. And I still think Neal is oddly cute, especially with his longer hair, and I know that’s not what he’s going for but dammit, Neal, face it. You’re cute. He does, however, play guitar like a fricking rock god. I think he’s amazing.

This!!! I’m possibly one of DC’s most conservative fans, but Neal is Neal and I truly love him how he is!!! Is it because he’s a guitar god? Possibly! He is gifted beyond belief and everything about him just adds to this, imho.

Mr. Cook remains a big tease

kariann
11/07/2009 at 12:38 am
There’s news that RCS’a A & R Exec who was charged with Adam’s album is leaving RCA. Can you please find out details?

He’s leaving to become the President of Columbia Records. I didnt’ realize he was involved with so many successful people:

While at RCA, he A&R’d multi-platinum, platinum and gold artists, including the Foo Fighters, Kings of Leon, Daughtry, Velvet Revolver and David Cook along with breakthrough artists Ray LaMontagne and Imogen Heap. His most recent accomplishment was overseeing A&R for the highly anticipated debut album from American Idol finalist Adam Lambert.

http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/news/newsPage.cgi?news07824m01

Excellent news. And does this mean all those stations that won’t play songs unless they are in the top 40 will play it now? Because that would be cool.

This may convince more stations to spin it. It certainly won’t hurt.

LLWD has cracked the Top 40!!

Excellent news. And does this mean all those stations that won’t play songs unless they are in the top 40 will play it now? Because that would be cool.

Do you know whether LLWD cracking the Top 40 on the mediabase pop chart means that it will be on Ryan’s American Top 30 show? I don’t know what source they use for that program.

I’m going to assume that you mean Top 40 show? Probably. The Top 40 show is recorded mid-week, so it obviously won’t make this weekend’s shows, but it should probably make them next weekend (or the one after that).

Also, does this ‘officially’  give him a Top 40 hit?

Depends how you define it. It’s generally accepted that you have to do it on the weekly chart (Sunday to Sunday), but I think he should be able to hold the position. Nobody nearby is gaining faster than LLWD (Timbaland is going to need a few weeks to catch up), LLWD might be able to reel in a couple of songs ahead of it and some songs might go re-current on Sunday, so it should be able to finish out the week in Top 40. It might not be Top 40 on BB though because they use a different monitoring service (BDS). Still, it’s a milestone.

And it’s a recognizable milestone. Jive will be able to advertise that the CD contains the Top 40 hit LLWD and people will know what the means. They don’t know what “The most added song in HAC” means.