11 Songs is quite a lot of songs for an opener though I will say. Most opening acts do around 5 – 7 songs tops so it is almost like he is co-headlining.

I’ve been out of the concert-going demo for quite some time until the last year or so, so I don’t know how they market acts in general, but I believe when I got the announcement from the Mann about this particular Demi/David gig, David was listed as her “special guest.” I’ve noticed that “special guest” language a lot lately; is it something new?

When I saw Better Than Ezra at the Trocadero (holds ~1300, mostly SRO, but includes a cool balcony with benches) last week, they were joined by “Special Guest” Tyrone Wells. Tyrone performed for about an hour (the same length as David Cook’s headlining Declaration Tour peformance at Penn State York back in April). Now Tyrone (whom I’d never heard of, BTW) just released a new major label album, so I’m guessing the “special guest” billing is something that’s paid for by the artist’s management and is a step above the typical “with John Doe” billing?

I don’t know how these things work exactly, but $25 at the door to see BTE and Tyrone Wells seemed like an awfully good value, given how awesome both those acts were, compared to $50 for Demi/Archie or $35 for Cook/Ryan Star (who were both also awesome, but that show was SHORT!).

The Mann, BTW, is kind of an in-between-sized venue. It’s outdoors but more than half the seats are under a canopy and the rest of the seating is fully exposed to the elements, and then there’s a grassy section for folks to picnic on while catching the show. It’s the summer home of the Philadelphia Orchestra, so it has great acoustics.

Seriously, if you love David, just go to the show solo or bring a kid as your beard, because I expect he will be terrific, Disney crapfest notwithstanding. I’m not a big Archie fan (although I love the kid), but I don’t get not supporting somebody you love just because you don’t care for how he’s being marketed. It’s not like Archie is doing a special “Disney show.” YMMV, of course.

Could you look into the newest angle to Demogate? I just don’t know how reliable the source is. After all, it’s TMZ we’re talking about. XD

The entire scandal is kinda confusing right now

Thanks!

I now have my very own personalized autographed Michael Johns CD. I think my life is one step closer to being complete. Haha
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Anyway, blah. I’m kinda curious as to what Blake Lewis is going to release, but then… he’s such a douche that I think I’ll feel a little disgusted that I’m listening to him….. sorry….RAMbLE BLAH!

That isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t the case for everyone. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve seen a lot of people saying they arenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t going to this tour because they donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t want to see David open up for Demi. If David was co-headling then that might be a different story.

Bingo! I was too embarassed to even ask my friends to go to a Disney concert. Luckily, one of his solo gigs is in my neck of the woods :mrgreen_wp:

Can’t wait for the show!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0GaN6BWOAQ

Thanks, MJ, for the news roundup about some of the other Idol alums.

So he’s out on the road performing, which he loves and he probably has time to work on his writing and composing. Even though I absolutely hate the gig he is involved with, I guess I’ll admit that it probably works out better for him than having to cough up the money for a solo tour extension that may have burned him out and left him with a lot less revenue.

That’s all I care about. .lol.

I also wonder if he’s going to schedule a show at a small club to make up for the canceled Demi tour dates.

David Archuleta bears none of the responsibility for the poor ticket sales. This is not his tour, as evidenced by the lack of his name in the promotion. This is all team Disney.

The fact that it’s “Team Disney” is the reason I won’t go. I’m in my 30s and I’m proud to support David, but to be frank, there is no way in hell I’d be caught dead at a Demi concert….or a Miley concert….or a Jonas Brothers concert…even with David performing.

Any of the bands that have longevity will tell any younger band that the best thing to do is play play play regardless of the size of the venue or if you open or headline because that is how you develop your stage craft and your sound.

It might have to do with the vendorsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’Wal-mart, Target and iTunesà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’wanting exclusive material.

Yup. Same thing with Archie’s album. Regular album, Wal-Mart version (with one extra song), iTunes version, itunes Deluxe version (with 3 extra songs) and iTunes Deluxe Pre-Order ONLY version (4 extra songs).

Then there was the Japanese version (with 2 OTHER songs different than the iTunes Deluxe version), etc., etc. etc.

Nuts!

What would the Cook fans say is the average size crowd over his whole tour excluding festivals and that Red White and Boom concert which had 50,000 peeps.

Just curious, where did the 50,000 number come from? I’m sure I read it somewhere that the capacity is 18,000.

As mentioned before, the college venues are small, I think I read of one with capacity of only 350. I should imagine the average would still be less than a thousand if you include the non-college ones but exclude the festivals.

OLP’s main fanbase is still mainly Canadian, though not exclusively clearly, plus Raine and his wife Chantal Krevasiuk are busy with solo careers, writing songs for other people, including Canadian Idol and Chantal is a spokesmodel for Clairol. Seriously AI get Raine and Chantal to do your coronation song next year. Please. Then maybe you can see 3 million downloads like a Kanye or BEP.

Curious to see what happens to Canadian Idol, Sass Jordan has said recently she would not be interested in returning IF the show is resurrected. I didn’t like the sound of that, IF the show is resurrected.

Well thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s nice, but then WTF was the point of releasing so damn many versions of the album?

It might have to do with the vendors–Wal-mart, Target and iTunes–wanting exclusive material.

we were hoping he might tour with OLP this summer but I havenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t heard anything, pout.

That would be fantastic, and near heaven for him I’m sure!

And, I’ll admit I’m lame for not really knowing OLP pre-Cook. There’re are a few lost workaholic years that acted as an empty vacuum between me and good music. LOL

What would the Cook fans say is the average size crowd over his whole tour excluding festivals and that Red White and Boom concert which had 50,000 peeps.

That’s a great question. I don’t know for sure. The 1st half of the tour – the college part – had a 1000 seat cap on the venues. He sprinkled in some casinos and small theater shows here and there but I don’t think any of the non-college venues went past 2K or so. For this leg, it loos like they are mix 1.5-3K seaters, a couple of larger theaters & some bigger casinos (5K maybe?), and some huge festival/fair type shows.

I think we might see him open for a bigger act in the fall.

David Cook, a great ambassador for the Canadian music industry. Thanks, eh!

He better haul his butt and his band up here this summer – we were hoping he might tour with OLP this summer but I haven’t heard anything, pout.

I didn’t realize Daughtry did a small venue tour before Nickelback – though it always makes sense to work the kinks out of the band as well in smaller venues. Many major acts will do small venues just to get the kinks out before they hit the big arenas and such.

The Rolling Stones had a tradition in fact of always rehearsing in Toronto before every major tour and you never knew which club they were going to turn up at because they would have surprise gigs all over town.

Maroon 5 and Counting Crowes were actually coheadlining a tour last summer – very weird – apparently they would trade off who opened and who closed and like wow, the Counting Crowes crowd is not anything like the Maroon 5 crowd. Mismatched set I would say.