Kirsten’s Vancouver American Idols Live Tour Re-cap

Photos after the recap…   Check out Kristen’s photobucket: HERE.

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Disclaimer: Yes, I’m biased. No, I’m not a reporter. No, I know almost nothing about music. Yes, I’m long-winded.

It’s the first time that American Idol Tour has decided to visit Vancouver (AFAIK), and Vancouver decided to rain on their parade. Oh well, at least they got the taste of the real Vancouver. Some people come here when we have lovely weather and then move here thinking it will be nice like that all the time. No, it rains and rains and rains and rains and then rains some more. Buy Gortex. Although, it has been gorgeous for the last 2 months, before the Idols came to town. I blame 19E for the rain.

I have seen the AI tour twice before, both times in Tacoma. I must say that it’s a relief that they came here. Boarder line-ups are a pain, it’s a long drive, it can be hard to find an American gas station that doesn’t require that you to give them your zip code (we have postal codes and entering 90210 doesn’t work. I tried it) and the Tacoma Dome is a little dumpy. Whiny, aren’t I? This time they came to GM Place, nicknamed, The Garage. It’s your typical sports arena that was designed to host the Vancouver NHL and NBA teams, but there was some consideration given to acoustics. The venue will also be used during the Winter Olympics next February for the Men’s Hockey events. I think AI is going to get creamed in the Canadian ratings when Olympic hockey is on. AI should continue to be fine in the States (woman’s ice skating finals are on the weekend).

The first thing that I noticed entering the venue was that there were a lot more men than I remember seeing at AI concerts in the past. I reason that it’s because this is the first AI concert in Vancouver and the men have yet to learn. LOL. That said, the men seemed to have a great time, so perhaps they will come back. Still, the VAST majority of the audience was female.

I took a peek to see what kind of swag they were selling and it seemed like mostly the normal stuff. You could get everything from key chains to fridge magnets to mugs to programs to posters to Teddy-Bears to a variety of T-shirts. As usual, the only Idol picture centric t-shirts were a group one, one featuring the winner (white with green lettering) and one featuring the runner-up (black with white neon eyes that seem to follow you as you walk by). The weirdest t-shirt was a black t-shirt with the words “I [Skull-and-Cross-Bones] American Idol”. I must admit to being puzzled with this one. Has American Idol finally decided to tap into a new market? The market of all those people who are forced to come to the concert by their friends, spouses and children? The people who dislike AI with the heat of of a thousand suns? Does it mean “I Hate AI”? Or “I Poison American Idols”? Or “I Wish I was Dead When I Watch American Idol”? Or is it code-word for “I Know 19E Are Pirates”? Now I’m starting to wish I had purchased one.

The only thing I bought was some Dibbs because by this time, the rain had stopped and it was muggy. Plus, Richard Rushfield made me crave them by tweeting about them last night. Then, I went down and found my seat. Row 5, sandwiched in between a slightly stern Adam loving couple on my right and a hilarious Kris/Matt loving couple on my left. Thank goodness for the hilarious couple because cracking jokes about how the crew members perched in the light rigging 4 stories above the stage survived without a pee break for 3.5 hours and how the show was being delayed because Kris was pitching a fit about green M&Ms backstage were the only thing that kept me sane through the barrage of repeat music videos. People gripe about Pop radio playing the same ten songs all day. At least it’s ten songs. We were subjected to the same 4 videos over and over and over again. It was like being trapped on a plane on the tarmac and having to listen to the safety lecture on repeat for 12 hours. I know that 19M wants to pimp their clients, but Daughtry, Cook and Carrie all have other videos. Couldn’t they at least show some of the other ones? When they finally showed some cheesy informercial about the Disney AI experience, the entire crowd almost started cheering. Honestly, if I have to listen to the same video played three times in a row, I will start to hate it, so mix it up 19M!!!!!! Where is that damn skull-and-cross-bone t-shirt?

Finally, the concert started and the stadium erupted. People jumped to their feet and started applauding wildly just for some kind of red lines on the screen. Michael appeared on the stage and we didn’t care, we treated him like Adam. Lots of cheering. Lots of noise. And Michael was off singing his first song. On the show, I thought that Michael was kind of ham-fisted. He clumped around the stage and there wasn’t much colour to his singing. But I was really impressed with his cover of ‘I’m in Love with a Girl’ . It had a lot of energy, it sounded good and he seemed to move around a lot better. Perhaps I was just high on Dibbs. But the rest of the crowd must have been too, because he maintained his intro excitement. “Closer” was pretty well done, but the crowd calmed down a bit. In any event, a great set from somebody I had my doubts about. He gets to keep his tour spot.

Then Megan came out. Man, is that one hot looking woman. Her legs are simply stunning. They go on for miles. And the dress was very flattering on her. Okay, enough of me being Paula, now I must be Kara/Simon. “The Thing Is” the girl cannot sing. I’m sorry, but it was like somebody let the air out of balloon. The crowd collapsed into their seats. Even some people in my section which was a hopping section where people were standing and dancing and waving glow sticks for the entire concert (I love being at the front. The enthusiastic fans always manage to get some tickets up there and they infect the entire area with their excitement and it makes the concert so much more fun. And that’s what this cheese fest should be. Fun. Sure, you get sore feet and you need to eat Dibbs to keep up your energy level, but it’s still fun). Megan sang two songs I love. “Put Your Records On’  and ‘Tears Dry on Their Own’ , but the problem is that she doesn’t have enough soul to sing those songs. Mr. Rogers has more soul than Megan. I still maintain that she should have selected “Big Girls Don’t Cry” by Fergie. The song is popular and simple and Megan sounds like Fergie to me. I think she could have handled that. These two songs in her set just don’t work for her. She has become better about moving around the stage (and doesn’t do the Toddler-Pee-Dance as much anymore) so she is improving. Her vocals just suck. Sorry, Megan. But you are smokin’ hot, so you could still have a career as a recording artist.

Now that the crowd was deflated, it was Scott’s job to pump us up again. Seemed like a tall task for him. During the show, he turned everything into an 80s AC Ballad and made me think of the “Great American Hero”. Here, he was still singing AC tunes, but they sounded current and had some zip. Scott rose up from the center of the stage, the audience was ready to hear something good, and Scott delivered. People in my section were back up on their feet and dancing to “Bend and Break”. Then, Scott told some jokes before returning to the piano for “A Thousand Miles”. I wasn’t totally blown away by this song, but it was certainly a much improved Scott.

Scott sank back into the floor, and Lil’ Took the stage. Lil’ started out strong on the television show, but seemed to lose her way. I think she got confused by the judges and headed off onto the wrong path. The more they tried to guide her back to the path, the more she veered further off the path (granted, the judges’ version of guiding is like trying to find an address while having a wonky GPS system, your mother-in-law in the back-seat shouting instructions at you and your 3 year old trying to read a paper map and they’re all providing conflicting information while a monkey jumps on your head and the car is on fire). Lil’ just became too karaoke on the show. But, again, she’s better in concert than she was the show. I thought ‘Be Without You’  was a little muddled, but “No One” worked quite well. “Single Ladies” was by far, her stand-out performance. She was all over the stage and very energetic. The crowd was having a lot of fun with it. I think the biggest improvement, though, was that it looked like she was having fun too. By the end of her Idol run, she looked miserable which makes it hard for the audience to enjoy it. She’s back to loving being on stage. Maybe it’s the lack of those whacky judges.

Another contestant doing better without the judges is Anoop. He looked practically tortured by the end of his AI run and with good reason. In some ways, he may have even been relieved to get the boot. But, now he’s back and that works out well for all of us. Anoop changed the entire tone of the concert. Before, everybody was having fun, but I think that Anoop is the first person who knocked people’s socks off and who was bit of a pre-existing crowd favourite. I’ll admit it that I didn’t really “get” Anoop on the show. I did not see his audition (I skip the auditions), so my first real introduction was that dirge he sang during Final 1 Group night. Then, his “My Perogative” during the wildcard seemed a little frantic to me and “Beat It” was a disaster. I missed country week, so I didn’t see his recovery and by the time we hit Motown, he was looking beat-down by all the Ryan/judge antics. But, now that I’ve seen him in concert, I’ve seen the light. Anoop came floating up from the stage singing “Always On My Mind” and the crowd reached a new level of frenzy. He was fantastic. Smooth vocals. Honest emoting. Excellent phrasing. “Mad” didn’t do much for me, but “My Perogative” blew me away. Now we had a concert!

So, how do we follow up Anoop’s great set? they bring out Matt to tear up the stage. Who is this guy? Where did he come from? Well, I think I saw a kernel of this guy when he was on the show. The guy who was gutted by his disastrous “Viva La Vida” and never regained his confidence. The guy who turned every song into singing-trick-goulash. The guy who was a ball of nerves. That guy was gone, replaced with the guy I think AI wanted Matt to be. Matt was here. Matt was there. Matt was everywhere. He was singing. He was dancing. He was playing the crap out of the piano. People around me spent a lot of the intermission talking about his performance of ‘Hard to Handle’ . Heck, people were still talking about it after the concert. That was an amazing performance. “Georgia” was heartfelt and wonderful. “You Found Me” seemed a letdown from the other two. It was still good, but it just did not have the power of the other two performances. Perhaps it is the hats. They contain Matt Kryptonite. Or Perhaps Kara is right and “The Fray” is not for him. In any event, the first song of the set was enough to wipe out the last song from the audience’s collective memory.

And then, there was a truly bizarre medley of varying quality. It started with Megan and the audience once again, collapsed into their seats. You could almost hear them say “Wait, I thought we’d already survived her set. How can you inflict her on us again?” It’s like when you bike up a hill and you get to the top and you think you are done, but you see that the top of the hill was just hiding an even bigger, steeper hill. The crowd was ready to bolt. Then, poor Lil’ had to duet with Megan and it was horrid. Poor Lil’. Makes the “Renegade” duet seem like a prize. I don’t know what they sang and I don’t think the poor song needs to be outed with its name either. Poor song was helpless. It deserves its anonymity. Once again, Scott popped his head up from his rabbit hole to save the day after Megan ruined it. This time, he brought Matt with him to do a rockin’ piano duel with ‘Tell Her About It’ . The audience was up on it’s feet having fun in no time. The horrible Lil/Megan duet quickly faded from our memory. Or brain protects us that way from trauma. Thanks, brain! Sarver came out to sing some Elvis (hey, I thought Adam was Elvis) by himself. Why did nobody duet with him? There were six people. I don’t get it. Anyway, Anoop came out like James Bond to set up the final song in the group number and we were soon back on our way to watch 19M’s latest videos on repeat.

Allison suddenly took the stage without much fanfare. First, we were watching some plant win the Disney American Idol contest (if he makes it to the Final 36/24/32/37/Whatever next season, I’m throwing something at the TV) and the next minute Allison was on stage. How come Michael got a crowd rev-ing intro? No problem, Allison doesn’t need an audience warm up. She can warm up the crowd all on her own. She was out there with guitar singing “So What” and crowd was rev’ed in no time. During her set, I noticed that there weren’t a lot of Idols this year that could play instruments. Sure, there was the piano playing trio and Allison can kind of play the guitar, but I remember finding out during previous tours that there were lots of Idols that played instruments. Kind of odd in a year when instrument playing is allowed, if you ask me. There won’t be an Idol band this year. Anyway, back to Allison. The wind machine was all kinds of nuts during this section. Made it hard to take pictures because her hair was everywhere. She did a good job of “So What” and I bet that Jive is thinking of molding her in line with her labelmate P!nk. I love P!nk so I think that’s a good idea. Then, Allison tackled “Cry Baby”. I don’t mean to criticize her, but I think she was a bit too much all over the stage on that one. I still think her singout on the show was her best version. That’s a song that doesn’t require a lot of bounding about. Just stand basically in one spot and pour your sole into it. “Barracuda” was a lot of fun and her interactions with the guitar player was very authentic. I’d also like to note that it’s great to see the same tour band back year after year. Unless I’m mistaken, Dave is still at the keyboards and leading the band. I remember the guitar player, other keyboardist and drummer (Aaron?) from S5/S6 as well. I think it’s the same bass player too. I like that continuity. I’m sure they help out the Idols a lot too with their AI tour experience.

Then, Danny came out. There has been a lot of talk about people planning to take bathroom breaks during his set. And people hating him. And him being the villain and all. But I saw none of that in Vancouver. The crowd seemed to be thrilled he was there. The little kids in front of me even did his heart thing with their fingers. Danny started out with “PYT” and the crowd was singing along and dancing and having fun. Then, he did “Maria, Maria” which wasn’t quite as successful, but still kept the energy level fairly high. He got it back to previous levels when he sang a very convincing version of Rascall Flatts’ ‘What Hurts the Most’ . In fact, I think he sings it better than them. He did a very short speech (and got a group “Awe”) and then was into his last number. The audience seemed inspired. It was a very successful set. And I didn’t know that Gokey had guns. The lighting was very harsh on him, though, It was like an alien spaceship was about to land on top of him or kidnap him or something.

And what do you know, an alien did land. His name was Adam and I knew it would be loud (every time his photo had appeared on the screen in between repeats of the “All-American Girl” video, a loud cheer would go up. I’m pretty sure that the cheering was not just because we weren’t having to watch “No Surprise” again). Anyway, an ear-splitting roar occurred and everybody seemed to be on their feet. And a cow three rows up started waving around her cheap-@ss sign so I didn’t see much of Adam unless he was on the other side of the stage. Look lady, if he doesn’t acknowledge your ugly sign the first 15 times you waved it as high as you could, perhaps he is ignoring you. I wish I would have saved some Dibbs so I could have lobbed them at the back of her head. I don’t even like Adam so I can imagine how livid his actual fans were. So, I hate “Whole Lotta Love”. I hated it when Zepplin originally sang it. I hated it when Daughtry sang it on tour. I hated when Adam sang it on the show. So, odds were slim I was going to like it this time either. And, “No Surprise” (no 19M, that is not your cue to play that video AGAIN), I didn’t. Yes, he did the thing with the mic stand and I almost burst out laughing. It looked so rehearsed. I remember laughing during Ace’s heartbeat thing during the S5 concert and if fan looks could kill (I’d be dead), so I made sure I did not this time. Then he sang “Mad World” and won me over. I love that. The ethereal quality of his voice during this song is captivating. Plus, when he isn’t concentrating on “The Adam Show” I find that he comes across as much more genuine. He followed it up with “Starlight” and was on a roll. I really enjoyed that as well. Now it was time for Allison to come out and sing “Slow Ride” (the only song I really enjoyed from stupid Hard Rock week) and they did a fantastic job. It was slightly marred by an underwear incident. I say marred, because Allison and Adam had a great vibe going on there and the audience attention was ripped away by the distraction of a rude concert goer. So, the audience ended up being amused rather than focusing on the performers. Way to go rude concert goer. Finally, Adam ended his set with the Bowie Medley. Somebody let Mayor McCheese out of his cell and he programmed some truly cheestastic imagery for the screen during the first song of the medley. Then, they wrestled McCheese away from the backscreen program and I could focus on the rest of Adam’s performance. It was fine. I don’t really like the rock wail (I know others do and the concert isn’t all about me), but I much preferred “Mad World” and “Starlight”. I think he should bump the Medley to the middle and move “Starlight” to the end.

Then, my favourite, Kris, came out and the audience exploded again. Yes, the clap-o-meter would indicate that Adam got more applause, but the crowd loved Kris too. When the opening of “Heartless” started, there was a collective “All-right!” from the audience. I love his rendition of that song. I always liked Kris, but that song made me want him to win. Before, I just thought it would be nice if he did. That said, I was a tad disappointed. Kris still conveyed the complicated emotions in this song, but he sounded a little hoarse tonight. Kris’s vocals during this song are usually so pure. Perhaps he had been cheering all night for the other contestants because that’s why I was hoarse by that point in the concert. Or maybe all the rain gave him a cold. He had a big drink of water before he started “Ain’t No Sunshine” and that helped a lot. “NoBo” is NoBo. My section mostly remained standing, but “NoBo” deflated the crowd a little. “Ain’t No Sunshine” was gorgeous (he really knows how to milk that song for crowd response) and “Bright Lights” was brilliant. He was all over the place. Strong voice. Mad piano skills. Rippin’ guitar. The kid can rock. Everybody around who’d sat down surged back to their feet for the guitar portion. Kris had revived the crowd from their recent bout of “NoBo” poisoning (perhaps that is what the skull-and-cross-bones shirt is warning us about. It’s the “NoBo Shirt”). Finally, with everybody on their feet, Kris closed with “Hey, Jude” which had people waving their cellphones and doing the “Na-na-na-na-nas”. I really enjoyed it. Great way to finish off a set.

Finally, after all that, “Don’t Stop Believing”, cheers for the band and “Seacrest Out”.

Summary: Best AI concert that I’ve been to.

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174 Responses to “Kirsten’s Vancouver American Idols Live Tour Re-cap”

  • Squirrely:

    LVanna – that has me really excited, I can’t wait to hear what they come up with.

    Whether you like Adam or Led Zeppelin best doesn’t really matter to me, but one thing I really, really like is that you know who is singing from word one.

    Exactly Revcat, Adam is a stand out and hopefully come this time next year he will still be a major stand out based on how successful his album is.

  • CindyM:

    “But with Adam, Allison, and Kris, I don’t get that ’shtik’  vibe (unless you don’t mean it negatively? I think of ’shtik’ as a negative thing). Those are the only three people from whom I don’t get the sense that they are trying to be what they think they should be or want to be as singers. ”

    I was commenting based on an earlier post regarding Adam’s “schtick” and authenticity. I think my comment was more to say that any of the idols could be seen as having a “schtick” if looked at cynically. I’m with you, I don’t think it’s “schtick”, I think their personalities and experiences come out in their performances and what they express isn’t an act. I think the majority of the time, that’s just who they are as people and it manifests itself in their performances.

  • Mary102:

    As for Daughtry, I agree with you. I used to like him until his first album came out then he started turning me off with his attude, it’s like his whole persona changed. What I like about Adam, David A, David C and Kris Allen, is they still seem to be the same person they were when this whole thing started for them. The Adam now is the Adam from AI, the Adam from Zodiac, the Adam from the Cabaret Lounge (or whatever that club was) this is him take him or leave him – I am taking him.

    I feel the same way. I loved Daughtry during S5, thought he was the best/deserved to win, etc. and eagerly bought the album, which had a lot of good music on it. Not quite as edgy as I would have liked (and a little too nickleback-ish, which is not my style) but still good, and he had already won me over from idol.

    However, he never came across as well in post-show interviews, and even as a huge fan I’ll admit it. He seemed slightly pissed over the loss, had a tendency to not smile much or laugh, put on an overly serious persona which, though may work well for his current image, is just not my thing.

    After watching the likes of Kris, Adam, Allison, and the Davids last year have such infectuously sweet, fun, goofy personalities, I much prefer this. IMO Daughtry strikes me as someone who takes himself too seriously. The others, otoh, don’t.

    Not to mention I had a bad run in trying to meet him after a show, before he became really famous :-) He wasn’t as nice to the fans who waited for hours after a show for him. Just kind of rubbed me the wrong way.

  • CindyM:

    “Not to mention I had a bad run in trying to meet him after a show, before he became really famous :-) He wasn’t as nice to the fans who waited for hours after a show for him. Just kind of rubbed me the wrong way.”

    Actually had the same experience here in Alb NM right after the first CD came out. He was playing at the Launchpad, kind of a club venue, and his attitude was not great at all. He did an interview with the radio station here and didn’t come off well at all. I figured he was just out of sorts that day. I loved his singing on the show, just never really got into his personality, always felt that distance, I don’t know. That boy can saaaang though. I also liked the first CD, but thought it was different than my expectations, a little blander. I figured that AI had too heavy a hand and the 2nd would be a little rougher. I haven’t had the chance to listen to the new CD, but “No Surprise” sounds like Nicklebackish to me, not really what I was expecting.

  • colette:

    Y’know, this is the limitation of fandom — some of these people are lovely and warm, others are shy or ijust introverted, and some are downright hostile and uncomfortable with fan love — including some of my favorite musicians ever, like Van Morrison. That’s why, at the end of the day, you gotta be there for the music. The offstage person is a whole ‘nother bag.

  • Tess:

    I know that fans and fan love can become totally overwhelming (see Jackson, Michael) but I would think that if you are participating in a career that really depends on the support of fans for you to make a living that you have to go the extra mile to appear to like them, at least a bit. I really don’t care what a singer thinks of me as a fan behind closed doors, but when he/she is in a situation where he/she is “required” to have fan interaction they should be as charismatic and jovial and appreciative as they can be. If someone “chooses” to depend on fans they need to at least try to be somewhat civil with them during marketing and performance time.

    Nothing is a bigger turnoff for me than the singer who says or presents an attitude of “Man, I have to tolerate everyone of you damn fans but I want you to know I hate everything about you…Now go out and spend your money on a concert ticket and an album but leave me THE HELL ALONE.”

  • CindyM:

    That’s why, at the end of the day, you gotta be there for the music. The offstage person is a whole ‘nother bag.

    ^^^^^^^^^
    I totally agree. The only problem I see with American Idol contestants is that the show is a personality contest. People vote on the music, but the personality really clinches the deal for ALOT of people. I think the “short-cut” you get with American Idol exposure sometimes requires that you remember that fact.

  • mar:

    I like Adam, but I have never found him to be sexy because it always seems (to me) that he is trying to hard.

    Just to say, I do find him very sexy, but some moves or expressions do strike me as “trying too hard” or “rehearsed”. I can ovelook those because I’m already a huge fan, but I can understand that point of view.
    I guess it’s a conflict between his Freddie Mercury vein (more spontaneous-rock swagger) and his Madonna vein (rehearsed and choreographed).

    Or his citizen vein (bwahaha ;)

  • SarahP:

    ‘Not to mention I had a bad run in trying to meet him after a show, before he became really famous :-) He wasn’t as nice to the fans who waited for hours after a show for him. Just kind of rubbed me the wrong way.’ 

    oh yeah? i liked CD on the show n i loved his first album. in fact i liked him even more after i heard “Home” and his tweets are always friendly and he says thank you to his fans all the time. i never got a conceited vibe from him but maybe thats cos i’ve never seen any of his interviews.

    anyway, back to topic. does anyone know where i can see the video of Dont Stop Believing from the Vancouver show? i love that cheesy song!

  • listen:

    I flove Adam, but I also find some of his moves not too my liking… Not sure what it is exactly. I actually find some of what Adam does off-putting, which I am shocked to say, because I really, really like Adam.

    Some of Adam’s moves seem too rehearsed and cheesy to me, and I hate feeling that way….
    Maybe I have been comparing Adam’s dance moves to Michael Jackson’s and Adam comes up short. Obviously MJ was very rehearsed, but for some reason his dancing just comes across better, not as cheesy. Maybe it is because MJ was truly a dancer, while Adam doesn’t have the same skill level?

    All that aside, I will still go see Adam Lambert in a solo concert in a heart beat.

  • Mary102:

    Nothing is a bigger turnoff for me than the singer who says or presents an attitude of ‘Man, I have to tolerate everyone of you damn fans but I want you to know I hate everything about you’ ¦Now go out and spend your money on a concert ticket and an album but leave me THE HELL ALONE.’ 

    ITA. The fans come with the territory. My thinking after the Daughtry run in was – hey, buddy – we voted our butts off for you on idol (I bought a freaking go phone for him I was so desperate to get him through!) And celebs of all varieties have to remember that the fans really are what make or break them.
    So you gotta kind of show them some love too.

    During the concert, he gave a shout out to the fans, but the reaction to them after the show was what made me think that you got to walk the walk if you’re gonna talk the talk.

  • Sassycatz:

    In that regard, I think Taylor was definitely the biggest flop. I could never understand the mad love for him his season – to me he was just goofy and not current. But he was HUGELY popular with the fans that year (never in the B3, lots of love from the crowd, etc.)

    Now, granted this is when I viewed Idol as nothing more than a TV show and never expected to purchase any of the contestants’ work or follow them afterwards, but I’ve got to say Taylor was enormously entertaining for me. There was no artiface about him. He seemed to take great joy in performing and didn’t appear to be figuratively choreographed at all … let alone literally choreographed. I would get a big smile on my face watching him. So many of the Idols through the years, you can see the wheels turning in their heads as they try and put on a show…. “This is what a rocker should be like; this is what a diva is like; this is what a soul singer is like; etc.” It’s not organic to them. (Not all of them, of course, but many and that’s what the audience sees through.) Taylor, on the other hand, he was unapologetically goofy and joyful. He wasn’t trying to be anything he wasn’t.

    The icing on the cake was, Simon couldn’t stand Taylor. That was a real plus for me. Ha!

  • Squirrely:

    Maybe I have been comparing Adam’s dance moves to Michael Jackson’s and Adam comes up short.

    Adam is definitely no MJ when it comes to dancing. Adam is used to the bump and grind from his Zodiac shows. I bet once he work with a few choreographers and a few back-up dancers for his solo tours he would be great.

  • listen:

    Adam is definitely no MJ when it comes to dancing. Adam is used to the bump and grind from his Zodiac shows. I bet once he work with a few choreographers and a few back-up dancers for his solo tours he would be great.

    You know, I think you are correct. Maybe he throws in too much bump and grind for me…. Maybe when he has had a chance to watch his performances back he will decide to make some changes… Although judging from the comments here, most everyone likes the “b & g”
    Don’t get me wrong, I like the slinky-stuff, just in moderation…

    I wonder what straight guys think about those moves?

  • Squirrely:

    Adam will have a lot to think about once his album drops and he goes solo – he will have to realize that his audience is no longer just women and gay men. Sexy is fantastic but I agree moderation is key if he wants to keep a diverse audience his voice will lure them in but some straight men may not want to see him perform live… of course I could be wrong…

  • Anastasia72071:

    Tess
    Nothing is a bigger turnoff for me than the singer who says or presents an attitude of ‘Man, I have to tolerate everyone of you damn fans but I want you to know I hate everything about you’ ¦

    ITA as well. And I immediately thought of these lyrics (Ugly Kid Joe) :wink1_tb: :

    Some say I’ve got a bad attitude,
    but that don’t change the way I feel about you,
    and if you think this might be bringing me down,
    look again ’cause I ain’t wearing no frown!

    You think it’s sad,
    well that’s too bad,
    ‘Cause I’m havin’
    A ball hatin’
    Every little thing about you!

    And I, hate everything about you!
    …everything about you!

  • Anastasia72071:

    listen
    …Maybe he throws in too much bump and grind for me’ ¦.
    Don’t get me wrong, I like the slinky-stuff, just in moderation’ ¦ I wonder what straight guys think about those moves?

    I have no idea what straight guys think about it, as I have not canvassed any (though I’m thinking that might be an interesting social experiment), and JMO of course, but I think what they SHOULD be is envious that he is capable of moving that way and eliciting such a strong response from so many women, LOL. Totally works for me – and I, for the most part, am looking at the technique aspect of the moves and how they mirror/channel/compliment the music & lyrics, rather than the sexual/sensual suggestion of said moves. Most straight guys (at least the ones around ME) couldn’t pull that stuff off to save their lives.

  • Mary102:

    I flove Adam, but I also find some of his moves not too my liking’ ¦ Not sure what it is exactly. I actually find some of what Adam does off-putting, which I am shocked to say, because I really, really like Adam.

    Some of Adam’s moves seem too rehearsed and cheesy to me, and I hate feeling that way’ ¦.

    In all honesty, there are a lot of artists out there who make me feel the same way, especially those in music categorized as being a little more “out there” and OTT (and that’s a lot of them, since this IS music, which is often characterized by larger-than-life stage presences).

    MJ is a perfect example. Re-watching some of his stuff (brilliant though it is), some of it is (please don’t take this the wrong way) kind of laughably absurd too. The costumes, the outfits, the mannerisms, the OTT gestures and sexualization of things. Watching some of the vids definitely gave me this sense.

    But I agree with the comment about Adam appealing to more than just women and gays – that is really essential. With him it’s kind of a double-edged sword, because part of what I love about him is the OTT’ness, the fact that even if I don’t like it completely, I still respect the guttsiness and bravado with which he goes out there and does it. To take that away to sanitize it might take away that allure.

    But I do think that getting him in line with some top choreographers will really sharpen his moves. JT, Beyonce – all of them have that kind of talent helping them out. They can take what he has (which is a very maleable body) and put the right choreography on to it.

  • Danica_K:

    ITA. The fans come with the territory. My thinking after the Daughtry run in was – hey, buddy – we voted our butts off for you on idol (I bought a freaking go phone for him I was so desperate to get him through!) And celebs of all varieties have to remember that the fans really are what make or break them.
    So you gotta kind of show them some love too.

    During the concert, he gave a shout out to the fans, but the reaction to them after the show was what made me think that you got to walk the walk if you’re gonna talk the talk.

    I have to say I disagree with this. The only thing my favorite artists owe me is to make great music. That’s it. They don’t owe me an autograph, personal photo, a personal shoutout from the stage, or anything other than making music I can groove to.

    If they’re happy to do that stuff? BONUS!

    I always try to keep in mind that while I’m sure they all appreciate fan support, some people (whether they’re stars or not) have different personal boundaries. Big groups of fans can be overwhelming. Perhaps there have been some really bad experiences with fans grabbing their junk or trying to stick their hands down the star’s pants (have personally witnessed this one and it was VERY uncool).

    From different things I’ve read around the web, posted by the fans themselves, it seems to me that some AI fans feel more entitled to a ‘piece’ of the artists because “we voted for hours for you, you owe us!” And having seen these guys on their TVs for a few moths the fans feel like they really know them. We don’t. We only know a small portion of them.

    So it would probably be good for them to be as friendly to the fans as they feel they can be, but the fans have to keep in mind that really they are owed nothing but the music. Everything else is gravy.

  • Squirrely:

    I deleted this and added to the headline thread

  • debarella:

    First of all, in case you read this Adam, I just love you, I adore you; your personality, your stage presence and of course your voice. I will be the first in line to buy ANY of your CDs. You are the only reason I am traveling to see my first AI ‘concert.’

    But I feel compelled to contribute to this thread. Maybe, I think it will help in some way for him to achieve the longevity he desires.

    Have to say there are some moves that just kill me. When I saw the Tacoma version of WLL I think I had a gasm. I esp liked the ‘come on give it to me’ move.

    On the AI show I really enjoyed Ring of Fire overall and I did not like the hand waving over the head too much but there was a very subtle hip and leg swish move that was so hot. I love to re-watch the making of the Mix it Ford video, when he dances, and smiles, and when he gives that sideways sexy look, I just swoon.

    I think that is why I am not liking the heavy eyeshadow so much. It detracts from the facial expressions that I fell in love with on the show. I know it’s stadium seating but I was hoping to catch one of those looks on the big screen. I do however like the guyliner and the rhinestones, those are very cool, he wore rstones when he sang with Kiss as well.

    I think with Adam, less would definitely be more. He has such magnetism that just that little shake of his shoulders sends shivers down my spine. But I know he likes to have that ’shock effect.’ It’s a thin, wavy line but I am sure that he will work it out by the time he has his own concert. After all, this is still an AI showboat.

    I have watched most of the videos from the concerts and they seem kind of dark, making it difficult to actually see all his moves, the spotlight doesn’t always keep up, and the stage looks crowded. I hope it is just the video quality. But love the change from the tank top to the vest.

    And finally, he does not need to be MJ, he is a fiery hot star all on his own.

    I love Adam, but I also find some of his moves not too my liking’ ¦ Not sure what it is exactly. I actually find some of what Adam does off-putting, which I am shocked to say, because I really, really like Adam.

    Some of Adam’s moves seem too rehearsed … and I hate feeling that way’ ¦.

  • ShariG:

    Kristin, I am sending you a huge hug (although I don’t have a clue what Dibbs are). You are funny and a really entertaining writer. Thank you so much for your recap. It was so nice to read a recap from someone who is not gaga over Adam. He is not my end-all be-all either and I also had to kind of laugh out loud at the over the top videos of Whole Lot of Love. I am a bit biased too and actually have a Whole Love of Love for Kris’s more heartfelt, genuine style. I can’t wait to see the concert in general and Kris in particular. I wonder why Danny and Kris aren’t singing Renegade on the tour? For all of the nasty comments it got the night of the show, it was really a good performance. It didn’t have the magic of the Adam/Allison combo, but it was good. I loved the harmonies and would have enjoyed it very much on the tour. Thanks again for a funny recap. You made me laugh several times and it is only 8 something in the morning in Chicagoland.

  • ShariG:

    Oh, I forgot to say, thanks for the great photographs, too.

  • Agent_Betty:

    Oh, Kirsten . . I LOVED your recap. It was hilarious and I found myself laughing out loud to your comments and your preceptions of AI trying to get at a different crowd with the merch. Specially, the 19E are pirates comment. LMAO!!!

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