It’s been an amzing day! Heading to record Clear Channel Stripped Music. All acoustic and u will hear a new cover I haven’t played yet…
4:41 PM Jul 21st from TwitterFon
JP and I just met the legendary John Paul Jones!!!!! Such a nice guy.
11:27 AM Jul 21st from TwitterFon

“It’s been an amazing day” That sounds good to me!

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As far a ‘worldwide’  appeal, well in the music business, you made it if you made it in the U.S. first. That’s the benchmark to success. The rest is gravy.
I’m going to respectfully disagree with both these statements.

No.1 — In the download age, selling one million physical discs or even entire online albums is BIG. Not HUGE but not shabby.

No. 2 — And in terms of making it in America first? Ahem, the Beatles? The Rolling STones? And more recently, U-2? Adele? Duffy?

These days I’m looking to England FIRST because their record companies are much more open-minded to new sounds, the country has some terrific music showcases on TV and radio for new acts, and the scene really scouts out the best new artists.

Of course, every Brit/Irish artist also wants to score a big success in the US! It’s not just the huge commercial market here that’s coveted, it’s also the touring market, and the concentration of media.

You cannot argue with Daughtry’s success. Even though his debut album is almost 4 years old, he gets tons of radio play. Radio loves him. His sound appeals to many listeners. It makes little difference if some people say that his second album sounds like his first album. It is still selling and radio is playing him and don’t care. When I listen to the radio and Nickleback is playing, I initially think it’s Daughtry for a few seconds, I have to admit. The thing is, “there is nothing new under the sun” and people are bound to compare and say “wanna-bees” but then you can’t argue with Nickleback’s success either.

As far a “worldwide” appeal, well in the music business, you made it if you made it in the U.S. first. That’s the benchmark to success. The rest is gravy.

It emerged because myself, and some others, didn’t like his music.

thanks for clarifying Truthiness. i may have worded my question wrong, cos i remember reading somewhere in this blog that apart from his music being wannabe-ish (which i think is not), he’s also quite conceited and egoistic. and i was wondering where all that came from, cos from what i’ve read he’s a really nice guy and plus he has some super fan friendly tweets. i look forward to reading them most of the days

Ok Truthiness, that makes more sense, in that it is a negative opinion of Daughtry’s music, not that there have been a lot of negative stories bout Chris himself being a bad guy or doing negative things.

Music is subjective and no two opinions are going to be the same. I’m just guessing, but I’d bet if you started listing off your favorite rock bands they would likely be bands that I think are bland, banal, boring, or not-really-rock, but that’s what makes the world go round. Different people like different things.

It’s just I was confused when people started referencing that there were a lot of negative news stories about Daughtry and I never have seen any, but of course there’s a difference between not liking his music and the man himself actually doing something negative.

Anyway, really like both these guys and I’m proud of them both. I think both of them are good examples of the importance of work ethic and not giving up. I know Daughtry’s gonna continue to dominate the rock scene as his latest album is fantastic and will have very long legs, and I’m confidant that with his quiet optimistic work ethic and talent Kris will do well too.

I’ve been hoping for a long time that at some point Daughtry and Cook would pair up and do some (no doubt sold out) arena shows together. Maybe there’s a chance that Kris would be on the bill too. If you got all 3 of those guys at the same show it would be massive.

This is a fantastic idea! I don’t know if they’d be willing to or if they’d want to shake the AI label (/stigma), but I would be there in a heartbeat.

i’m really thrilled about this and i personally dont think daughtry’s music is bland. wonder where and how the whole ‘negative’  stuff about daughtry emerged anyway?

It emerged because myself, and some others, didn’t like his music. I do find his music very Nickleback on his first album and man, does his second record sound waaay too much like his first record. Which is another issue I have with Nickelback, and yeah now Daughtery.

That’s it. That’s how my “negative,” stuff to Daughtery emerged. Don’t care him beyond what he produces…except I do actually like Kris and much as I don’t like Daughtery’s music, again, he’s been successful, so I hope he can help Kris in being successful as well. That would be cool for Kris…as long as he never sounds like Daughtery or makes blandy songs like his. In which case Kris might very well still be hella successful and I’d be happy for him, I just personally will never like or listen to that song then.

Yes, Daniel B, you are the best to suggest that. A Daughtry, Cook and Allen trio concert would be an EPIC WIN for many fans! Imagine them jamming together on the same stage with their guitars :clap_tb:

Just think the original quote is a bit of hyperbole based on the fact that Daughtry’s first album sold about 4.7 million domestically. I personally don’t think that a million world wide albums sold over a 3 year period constitutes world wide success, but I could be wrong. Also, I’m not sure that Daughtry has had a ‘world tour’  at this point, has he?

Well when I added “worldwide” before success it’s because they have played all over Europe, Asia, and Australia with much success in filling the venues. Selling a million records outside the U.S is nothing to brush off but I think it’s a success just in the fact that they are known and played worldwide…..not all bands or even AI alums are in the position to say that. They haven’t exactly had a “world tour” yet….they’ve barely had an official tour here yet….just the club ones. All that’s coming this year….they’re actually touring Europe in September before starting the official tour in the U.S. Weather you like Chris and/or Daughtry (the band) or not I think it’s quite obvious that they’re considered very successful for new band by many standards.

I apologize for getting off topic…..it’s supposed to be about Chris AND Kris and I personally hope they have a long lasting friendship and working relationship. I also hope Kris can have at least half (hopefully more)of the success that Daughtry has seen…that would be amazing

Steve Sundholm (far left), chief engineer at Night Bird Studios, and Mike Elizondo (second guy from the left), a writer and producer who is known for his work with Dr. Dre, Eminem, Maroon 5, Fiona Apple, Regina Spektor, Natasha Bedingfield, etc.

thanks for that piece of info. Hmmm, possibly Kris’s producer?

May Kris have the success of Chris.

I think that’s highly commendable given their massive worldwide success

With their debut album they have sold 5.9 million worldwide

Just think the original quote is a bit of hyperbole based on the fact that Daughtry’s first album sold about 4.7 million domestically. I personally don’t think that a million world wide albums sold over a 3 year period constitutes world wide success, but I could be wrong. Also, I’m not sure that Daughtry has had a “world tour” at this point, has he?

I’ve been hoping for a long time that at some point Daughtry and Cook would pair up and do some (no doubt sold out) arena shows together. Maybe there’s a chance that Kris would be on the bill too. If you got all 3 of those guys at the same show it would be massive.

I would LOVE that. There are a lot more fans who share a love of Chris, Cook, and Kris, than many AI fans might think. When the three guys all had new singles at roughly the same time, a lot of fans followed and voted for all three guys at yes.com.

At the root, all are making guitar driven, close-to-organic rock music, with varying degrees of pop leanings.

I liked Chris D. during his AI but had him slotted behind Elliott and Taylor, and I can’t say I’ve followed his post-Idol career quite as closely as other alums. However, much to my surprise, I’d have to say his debut CD is my favourite (so far) of all the AI grads, even including Kelly Clarkson’s work.

The only Idol alum whose music narrowly edges out Daughtry for me is Canadian Idol 2 third place finisher Jacob Hoggard with his band Hedley. Now there’s a guy who can really write a wide variety of catchy melodies with meaningful lyrics and great pop hooks for the radio. It’s too bad he hasn’t been able to catch on in the U.S. music scene to a greater degree.

I think everyone will be really surprised by his album in a good way. So don’t write it off just yet

From Pulse (about the 2 other guys):

Steve Sundholm (far left), chief engineer at Night Bird Studios, and Mike Elizondo (second guy from the left), a writer and producer who is known for his work with Dr. Dre, Eminem, Maroon 5, Fiona Apple, Regina Spektor, Natasha Bedingfield, etc.

What about Kris opening up for someone like the Fray? They could duet on Apologize. That duet would seem to work better than the one with Archie.

Uh..The Fray doesn’t sing “Apologize”. One Republic does. And DNW Kris to associate with that band/Ryan Tedder ever. Such a douchebag

This would be very interesting but how would it be billed. Chris would be the most successful, then David followed by the newcomer Kris. I just don’t think 19 Ent. would want the last two idol winners opening up for someone who came in 4th no matter how successful they are. What about Kris opening up for someone like the Fray? They could duet on Apologize. That duet would seem to work better than the one with Archie.

i’m really thrilled about this and i personally dont think daughtry’s music is bland. wonder where and how the whole “negative” stuff about daughtry emerged anyway?

I would be there at any cost if I can get all 3 of those guys at the same show! Love them!!!

Well, I like Chris waaaaay waaaay more than I like Kris, but I do like them both and this bodes well for Kris if he can get any mentoring at all from the most successful male idol of all time. So it’s definately a win for Kris, and I’m far more likely to buy his album if it has a Daughtry cowrite on it.

“I want better for Kris than the Nickelback-stereotype.”

Just… no. Kris doesn’t do that kind of rock anyway (I’m sorry, but it’s not within his range to pull it off, he wouldn’t sound right even trying), and also Chris Daughtry sounds no more like Chad Kroeger than Jon Bon Jovi sounds like Axl Rose. They are simply bands within the same genre, and no self-respecting rock fan could ever confuse the two. I’m not afraid that Chris will somehow ‘taint’ Kris. From an industry standard, I think Chris is one of the most legit idols out there (possibly because he has managed to distance himself so much from Idol. A cowrite/duet/work together of any kind with him of any kind is a win for Kris. I’m looking forward to seeing what kind of edge he could give him on whatever song they work together on (if they do). Especially because Daughtry = the opposite of bland.

“There have been a lot of negative things reported about Chris”

? I’m honestly curious what you mean by that. I have seen tons of negative *comments* about Chris from people who don’t like his music, but I’ve never heard anything negative reported about the man himself. He has a squeaky clean reputation as a truly nice guy, I’ve never heard anything different and I’m curious what you mean.

I said it before in the other thread on Chris when it was announced he opened his new album at #1 to a thunderous silence and indifference, but I find it an interesting disconnect that so many Idol fans are definitely *not* Daughtry fans, and it appears that many Daughtry fans are not necessarily idol fans (and I myself follow that rule as the only idols whose cds I would ever buy are Daughtry and David Cook, and possibly Kris Allen). I’m not scolding anyone or being defensive (I believe everyone should be allowed to like whatever music they like and I don’t really care that much because most people have different opinions than I do), but I think it’s really interesting how Chris, who is one of the most successful idols ever, just doesn’t seem to be very embraced by the typical idol fan the way most other idol contestants are.

I’ve been hoping for a long time that at some point Daughtry and Cook would pair up and do some (no doubt sold out) arena shows together. Maybe there’s a chance that Kris would be on the bill too. If you got all 3 of those guys at the same show it would be massive.

I have never seen anything negative either. Other than the few negative comments every artist gets. I have yet to meet a nicer musician. Very good family guy, very grateful to the fans, many friends in the industry who think highly of him, devoted to his band members. Very good work ethic, nice, genuine, hard working. But hey, if people don’t like that then that is their loss. :tongue_rolleye_ee: I would guess it has more to do with old idol fan wars than anything.