Kris Allen – Miami Tailgate Party – VIDEO
3rd Update: FULL versions of: “Hit Me Baby One More Time”, “Live Like We’re Dying”, “Before We Come Undone”, Can’t Stay Away,” and “Written All Over My Face” are posted after the jump.
I’m digging these new songs! “Can’t Stay Away” and “Written All Over My Face” are both great pop songs with a groove. Me likey
2nd: Update: The full videos are coming in. I just added “Live Like We’re Dying” . Awesome photobucket photos HERE.
Kris’s Band:
Andrew – Lead Guitar
Chris Torres – Bass
Ryland Steen – Drummer
Cale Mills – Guitar/Keyboards
VIDEOS AFTER THE JUMP!!!
Live Like We’re Dying
via ALoveRestrained
Baby Hit Me One More Time
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Can’t Stay Away
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Before We Come Undone
Written All Over My Face
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I have to admit I haven’t seen Kris on AI but I listened to his studio songs and watched youtube.
I didn’t expect this from him. I understand that Jive wants to make money from them, but why make him like this, when he can be quite successful being this John Meyer-type of musician.
The only song I liked was Before We Come Undone – maybe the songs in nothing unique but it’s perfect for him and it’s really good, suits his vocal abilities and the way he sings. The other three are a mess. In LLWD he sounded just like The Script (but it was The Script’s song), in the other one he’s a copy of Gavin DeGraw and in the last one – a not so good copy of Maroon5. Kris is to laid back to be funky and sell it. Kris has it own sound and should stick to it, because it’s a good sound. Copying other styles that are trademarks of other artists won’t end good for him. Not good Jive, not good
Kris only “co-wrote” one of the songs he performed on this day. One is a Britney cover, one a Script cover, one the Script wrote, and another he co-wrote. The other song was from another set of writers. (can’t remember who they were) One out of five.
“Idolthoughts, that’s why I like Before We Come Undone because it showcases all sides of Kris. The deep smooth lower register voice in the verses & the enthusiastic higher voice & positive vibe in the choruses!!Something for all tastes of music!!”
- judes
I T A!!! I know everyone’s hooked on CSA… but for me.. it’s this song. STUCK in my head! — Flove how it starts slowly and deep… then JUST LIFTS UP in the chorus (which is sooo effing catchy). Love the ending of the song, where the music just dies out and it’s Just Kris and his vocals and just pure raw emotion! Very ‘Apologize’ like endiing on AI.
This song completely captures Kris’s strongest ability – Takeing a catchy hook or chorus and transforming it into something meaningful. It won’t just get stuck in ur head… you will feel something everytime u hear it.
“Still not a huge fan of WAOMF, not surprised to have read later that it’s another Script writers number, though this time with Kris. I just don’t think they and I gel musically. ”
Truthiness. I hear ya! Kris did not collaborate on either song. He did meet up with the writers in UK but no writing credit for the song. I think Kris Fans will probably notice that CSA & BWCU have a ‘Kris’ feel to them but LLWD & WAOMF don’t as much. Though They are very catchy numbers and deserve to be a hit.
And I’m suprised ppl really expected to Kris go Johnson, Mraz or Mayer way… (I can see Jason castro taking this route but Kris… he has lot more range and variation to do just acoustic/soul/folksie/pop*)
*even though i love the genre
I always knew he was more of the Fray, Gavin Degraw, David Gray, MB20,One R, KOL type singer, just with more soul and more edge.
I’ve followed Kris throughout Idol, then through the Idol tour… I’ve heard alot of his interviews in which he clearly states that he does not want to be stuck in ‘a’ genre be it Acoustic Folk/ Soul or Pop/Rock & second… He wants to surprise ppl.
AND wow STARR… you’ve delurked with avengence!! LOVE IT!
gemini1
October 26, 2009 at 8:07 pm
Well since Kris co-wrote 2/3 of the new songs he performed, I think he is showing us who he really is as an artist and a person.
Kris only ‘co-wrote’ one of the songs he performed on this day. One is a Britney cover, one a Script cover, one the Script wrote, and another he co-wrote. The other song was from another set of writers. (can’t remember who they were) One out of five.
Kris co-wrote TWO of the 5 songs
“Before We Come Undone’ (Kris Allen, Lindy Robbins, Greg Kurstin) (Produced by: Produced by Greg Kurstin for SK1 Productions)
‘Can’t Stay Away’ (Kris Allen, Lindy Robbins, Mike Elizondo) (Produced by Mike Elizondo)
DID NOT CO-WRITE:
‘Written All Over My Face’ (Steve Kipner, Andrew Frampton, Danny O’Donoghue, Mark Sheehan) (Produced by: Produced by Andrew Frampton & Steve Kipner)
‘Live Like We’re Dying’ (Steve Kipner, Andrew Frampton, Danny O’Donoghue, Mark Sheehan) (Produced by: Produced by Andrew Frampton & Steve Kipner)
*Lindy Robbins —- I’m so glad you did not suck!!! You’ve out done urself!!!
THANK YOU! Nice to see that someone gets it!
Most decent artists are multi-faceted, but I truly believe that this represents what Kris wants us to see. It’s who he is as an artist. No hoping, wanting, or expecting will change that.
This is Idol. I know people have been trying to tell you newbies for a while that hoping for anything unique or musically ground-breaking was going to leave you burned in the end. If Kris wanted to be ground-breaking he never would have gone on Idol. Period. He went on Idol because he wants to sing pop/ rock. That’s exactly what we got.
Having said that, I’m sure you’ll all get plenty of goodies at his smaller live shows. He’s the kind of guy who can mix it up, and I’m sure he will.
Starr, excellent point about “owning the artists.” That’s a constant issue within Idol fandom because of the structure of the show. Anyone who finds themselves using words like “my” and “our” and “that’s not what I wanted” need to stop and think about what they are saying. Still, I understand where you are. I was you a few years ago. It’s okay. The thing is, you’re going to get burned. I know from experience. Ask mj, or any of the people who’ve been around a while. We’ve all thought that the first album was a “jumping off point” because he/she needs “to sell themselves first.” It’s not true. It’s never been true. He won’t give you what you want. If you can’t enjoy what he’s putting out for what it is, then he’s probably not going to be your favorite artist. The truth is, Kris will be okay with that. If you only buy a few songs on iTunes and maybe catch a live show every other tour, he won’t be disappointed. It’s a hard thing to let go of. Especially to see others thoroughly enjoying what you find to be kinda meh.
Also, sorry, but John Mayer’s first album was not an artistic masterpiece by any means. I do love his music, but I would never call it ground-breaking or experimental. I was working in a music store when Room for Squares came out, and initially the reaction was terrible. Pete Yorn had just released his first major label album, and we used to call him “Pete Yorn lite” and “Pete Yorn for tweens.” It took a few singles and some time for many of us to warm up to him. Glad I did, though. He’s blossomed into a very credible musician.
I heard the better Before We Come Undone audio. It’s…a bit pitchy dawg…I think I’ll have to reserve judgment on this one.
ETA: Okay. I’ve come to the conclusion Kris needs a new drummer. Sorry. The rest of the band sounds really competent, but the slightly off tempo beats and lack of originality are bugging. I hope it’s just a bad day for this guy, or a lack of rehearsal, but I’m not impressed.
*Lindy Robbins ‘â€- I’m so glad you did not suck!!! You’ve out done urself!!!
(In addition)
Two of the three Lindy Robbins co-writen songs from the Album are out!!! And they did not suck… Infact they were AWESOME!!!
Kris has said his influences were Michael Jackson, Stevie Wonder, Boys II Men, when he was younger, and people like Gavin Degraw later on. In his AI bio he listed Jamie Cullem (young jazz singer and pianist) as his favorite male artist.
When I first saw him on AI, some of his early performances were Man In The Mirror, Do You Remember The Time, How Sweet It Is, To Make You Feel My Love, and a funky All She Wants To Do Is Dance. None of this made me think of blues or folk. I guess he did one great, bluesy number (An’t No Sunshine) , but what did he ever do that was folk, in any way?
His other solo performances were Falling Slowly, She Works Hard For The Money, The Way You Look Tonight, Come Together, Apologize, Heartless, What’s Goin’ On, and NoBo.
To me he was always going in a direction I would call pop rock with some definite r & b, funk, and jazz influences. Not unlike what he performed Sunday. Based on AI and the tour, the music he’s doing is
just about what I expected and hoped he’d be doing. I’m sure he had to compromise in some ways, but not in any really major ways.
I like Kris’ new direction and will be buying the album (well already did on pre-order but maybe now I will buy two!).
Oh, and btw Carolinacharms? – please note that Kris is a kind, loving and Christian man who would be deeply ashamed of the disgusting hate and vitriol you spew all over the Adam threads. I know for a fact he would be horrified to have you as a fan.
Totally agree, ross. He even said his album would have a “rock” sound. Nothing unexpected, really.
Can I just point out that that one he co-wrote is the best received of the songs he performed? That has to be a good sign.
ETA: So, you pointed out that it was two, but my comment still stands. It seems his writing abilities have direction, and both songs have gotten positive feedback from fans.
Still, I think they (Kris and “his people”) selected these songs because they showcase the album. Probably also to see reactions for possible second singles…please, please, please go with Can’t Stay Away! I have to believe that these are representative of Kris’ sound regardless of who wrote them.
I think that’s what the discussion is about. His musical direction. Why fake out his first major live audience? I doubt the rest of the album differs too much from the direction of these four songs. I’m just glad there is a direction. No musical schizophrenia here. Yay!
erin: I think you are somewhat missing my point. I do enjoy what he is putting out, I believe I’ve put that down emphatically here haha. What I was trying to say (albeit a bit ineloquently) with the “jumping off point” part was that usually artists (not just on Idol) need that one album that will be a departure from what they are used to musically, and that a lot of people might question. This seems to be what is happening to Kris. A lot of people are pleased, but some aren’t, as you can see from some of the posts on this board clamoring about the disappearance of the acoustic/pop/soul Kris. For instance, Dashboard Confessional released the album “Dusk and Summer”, which was practically devoid of the traditional acoustic stuff Dashboard was known for and which garnered a huge following in the beginning. There were fans who were turned off by the departure, claiming Dashboard was losing the authentic sound that made them great. I personally thought Dusk and Summer was a great album and showcased a much different version to Chris Carabba both musically and lyrically, and I appreciated that,
My point is: You are right in trying to pass on some wisdom to us Idol newbies by giving us the advice of not expecting everything we want to be reflected in the albums of whoever we voted for. However, it’s not necessarily bad for a fan to criticize some of the things their Idol does. To me that is not being close-minded or snobbish or whatever, it’s just wanting the best for their Idol. And yes, what we consider the best is not necessarily what is really the best thing for the singer. I’m just saying it’s not fair to tell people to shush when they are not perfectly happy with a singer’s output. Instead of telling them to shush, it might be better to point out what makes the album an addition to the singer’s body of work, instead of dwelling on what “should have been” the album. I think when people have great expectations for an artist, it’s a good thing. Sure, they get burned, but that pretty much came with the territory. I had never been a fan of American Idol before, but I knew going into this that there would be a big possibility my expectations would either be met, exceeded or let down. Basically, I know I will get burned if I expect too much, but I expect a lot nonetheless!
Hope that made sense.
As for John Mayer’s debut album, we’ll agree to disagree. I’m a big fan of Pete Yorn as well, and although I can see some similarities with John Mayer, I’d have to disagree that they sound alike. I never said John Mayer was a pioneer in his genre of music when he released Room For Squares. However, I felt like for a debut album, it was a pretty strong feat. But like I said, to each his own
@ross: I don’t think that, when fans say they want himto go down the folk/singer-songwriter/acoustic-pop (insert genre here) whatever genre, it’s always necessarily sound-wise. Personally, what I meant when I say I had expected him to go down a Ryan Adams route, was more career-wise and production wise. I think a lot of people mean that they want Kris to be less produced, probably have less of the band involved (I remember the whole thing with people complaining about Kris being oveshadowed by bandzilla during Idol), probably have less collaborations, whatever. I guess you can say it has more to do with people being jaded with the music industry and fearing that someone they like is going to be “corrupted” or pushed around or whatever by the bad bigwigs in the music biz. It’s a legitimate concern; like when some people were disappointed by the overall studio recording of “She Works Hard for the Money” and “Heartless”.
Yes, I admit, I am one of these people who wrote a fan letter to Kris telling him to stay true to himself – even though I know Kris has a strong voice, even though he comes off as quiet and reserved, he knows who he is and isn’t afraid to push the boundaries (Noooo boundariessss wahaha
).
The bottom line is: I love these new songs and I cannot wait for the album. In the now immortal words of Kanye West: “October, I’m really happy for you and i’mma letchu finish, but November 17 needs to come right now!” “D
ROFL, this is especially funny because IT’S SO TRUE.
Starr, I’m not sure where you got the idea I was telling you, or anyone, to “shush.” If you did. I may have misunderstood you. All I’m saying is that there’s a difference between “I’m not a fan of that” and “That’s not what I wanted from him.” The former is just a criticism, the latter is a product of that “ownership” you discussed earlier.
No one is telling anyone here that they can’t have whatever opinion they want. I’ve said repeatedly that if anyone, you included, don’t like the songs that that’s fine, but that not liking them is not a reason to wish Kris into a box he may not want to be in. That goes way further than having big expectations.
I also resent you using words like “closed-minded” and “snobbish.” I certainly never implied that you anyone here were either, and I certainly never used those words. If you are mistaking me for someone else, that’s okay, but please don’t put words in my mouth.
Believe me, I’ve met snobbish music fans (and used to be one), and anyone who even gives two seconds to listen to an AI contestant would never qualify. lol
As far John Mayer…YMMV on any artist, as it always does, but my comment was specifically because you did use the words “experimental” and “ground-breaking” to describe aspects of Room for Squares, and my opinion is that it is neither of those two. Good is one thing. Equating John Mayer to a sort of poppier type of Radiohead is another. Like I said, I love him now, and began to love him shortly after Room for Squares was released. I’m just saying, he’s no innovator.
ETA: I also don’t really see the “clamoring” you’re talking about. I do see a few loud voices who are disappointed, but overall, most seem to be pleased and unsurprised – or pleasantly surprised – by his music. I think this is another case of – and I am just as guilty of it – seeing what you expect or want to see. It’s an easy thing to do. From the outside, it doesn’t appear the same. Again, I’ve sooo been there, and I’m just as guilty of it. I just don’t think this mass disappointment in Kris’ direction is there. It’s no larger than any other year. In fact, I’d say it’s much smaller than most years.
I’ve enjoyed reading all the comments here and the opinions. I am loving what I’m hearing from Kris and looking forward to hearing more.
Starr, your Kanye impersonation made me laugh.
Seeing a better closeup of Chris the bass player … I’d almost swear I saw him at my gas station the other week. Maybe following this is just messing with my head.
@erin: My response to your post was not meant to be offensive. From what I had been reading from your posts, you and I agree on pretty much the gist of things. I apologize if you thought I was putting words in your mouth when I was saying “snobbish” and “close-minded”; I have a tendency to think and post out loud (read: ramble) and it was more of me analyzing things than responding to something specific that you said.
I admit I may have chosen my words poorly when I seemed to imply that you were shushing people, when you were really just doling out advice as a seasoned American Idol follower. That was not my intention. I did feel like in some of your posts you kept repeating that we (new Idoloonies, as Michael Slezak of EW would put it) would “get burned” because we seemed to have this idealistic mindset of what we hoped for our American Idol contestants. I merely wanted to point out that while some of us are new posters and new followers of AI, we aren’t naive (at least here I speak for myself, I can’t speak for everyone else) enough to think that what we expect of Kris will come to pass.
Re the John Mayer thing: Like I said, we will agree to disagree. I can only use my experience as an example when I post and at the point of my life when I discovered John Mayer’s music, he did not sound like the conventional stuff that was on the radio, hence my use of the words “experimental” and “ground-breaking”. And call me cynical, but at the time Mayer released Room for Squares, he was pretty young, 23-if I am not mistaken (same age as when Kris won AI). And when I heard Room for Squares, to me it sounded more mature than what any other 23-year-old in the music business was churning out on the radio. My point is: for someone new to the music biz and relatively young as a solo musician, Mayer did not seem to have to compromise much for his debut album. And once again, I reiterate: this was my interpretation of it, and you can disagree because this is not set in stone and we all have different opinions.
And we can’t all agree on who is an innovator in music. Experts will have their opinion on who has really left their mark or who were pioneers, but everyone else will have their own formed opinions about who they feel really matters in the music industry. We can probably reach a broad consensus as to who the big people are, but we all have different tastes in music and we are bound to disagree on certaina artists being considered pioneers and experimentalists, etc.
Re the “clamoring” – once again, excuse my poor choice of words. I agree with you and for the most part among his fans I have seen nothing but them embracing Kris’s new songs. Again, didn’t mean anything bad with what I posted; just saying that while the general atmosphere seems to be that people love, like or meh the new songs, there are some people who are disappointed (yours truly, of course, not among the bunch, I love the new songs) and I outlined the reasons why they might be above.
Not sure you guys have seen this “Kris Allen Prank Call with Y100″ yet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tz3dArTuek
It’s too funny! Enjoy!
erinnthered and starr! you guys have become my heroes
keep up the healthy debate
and arrrghhh! why do i have to be at work today of all days when i want to read all the comments here??? just when a kris thread has expounded and exploded, i have a million things piled on my desk.
oh well, i’ll get back here during lunch break and enjoy!
come to think of it, yeah he does. he’s a bit mellow for a lead guitarist though
Thanks, SarahP. It’s a lot of fun talking to like-minded people who share a thinly-veiled obsession for all things Kris Allen hahaha
snlw – LOL…. I did!!!! “Kris Allen sounds like Clay Aiken!” (Erm NO!! I don’t think soo!!) LOL — “Don’t Lie to me now!”
Also
“but what did he ever do that was folk, in any way?”
Ross – My reference to Folk – as in soul/pop/acoustic/folk – I just inserted a random genre often associated with acoustic music… and it was more in reference to JCastro (who did do some folksie stuff on AI). I should have specified… In no stretch of imagination did Kris do Folksy stuff on AI. It was more soulful/pop stuff.
Far enough, but you have to admit, saying you might want to tone down your expectations is a far cry from saying you should tone down your criticisms.
I totally get what you’re saying about perspective, and how it effects your impressions of an artist, but I do think there are some objective ways to identify innovators. Especially in music and visual art. There really isn’t a huge difference of opinion on most musical innovators. Again, it’s one thing to say someone opened your eyes to a whole new form of music, than to say that they influenced the way music is made. I just think that’s an important distinction…one that a lot of AI fans (and I don’t mean you) could stand to learn.
There will always be disappointed fans when any artist releases new music. I do think it can be magnified within a fanbase, but not all fans will be fans of everything. AI related, or not. I don’t mean to say that criticism in the “this kinda sucks ’cause it’s not my style” way is wrong, at all. I’m really just going back to the ownership issue. It’s when people start saying things about what they wanted or expected, or make statements about a person’s state of mind whom they’ve never met. That’s when I think it crosses a line.
Thanks, SarahP. It’s nice to know we aren’t just a couple of people off arguing in a corner. lol
Oh that was hilarious! Thank you so much! I need to hear it again.
Hi TwigLA, I see you hunted down this page too.
That prank call was hilarious!! I was literally LOLing throughout it. Then I walked away from my computer for a few moments and had LLWD in my head, just from the snippet on the interview! This may be a Script song, but it’s Kris’s voice and take on it that I lurve so much!!!
erinnthered, I completely understand what you’re saying (or at least I think I do). Last yr. my expectations were huge for DC and when I heard LO, I was disappointed immediately. It’s grown on me since. (DCTR has some gems on it though, imo) This yr. I went into this thing with no (or little) expectations from Kris and have, so far, been pleasantly surprised!!! I keep wondering if it was the expectation level or if these songs suit my taste more. Don’t get me wrong, I still adore DC and he’ll always be at the top of the list for me.
And since we’ve referred to Kris past this first album already, I must say I’m looking forward to DC’s second album which he has started working on. I’ll see how my expectations affect me this time around…
I too love the analysis and debates! This has been a fun thread!!!!
Thanks for this. I had to figure how to autorepeat Youtube Videos because of this song. This one is my favorite so far. This one has the “Since U Been Gone” effect on me – I’m jumping up and down on the chorus part. Yes, it was pitchy at the beginning but it was the first live performance of this song so Kris will definitely improve on this.