Monday Morning Mediabase Update – 01/19/09
Here are your very abbreviated Monday Morning Medibase Updates (Top 30/40/50/whatever in major formats only).
Carrie Underwood:
“I Told You So”: ^41 Country (85)
Chris Sligh:
“Arise”: 34 CAC (33)
Daughtry:
à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“What About Nowà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ : 9 AC (7)
David Archuleta:
“Crush”: ^6 AC (7)
David Cook:
à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Time of My Lifeà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ : 1 AC (1)
“Light On”: ^7 HAC (9), ^23 Pop (24), ^30 AC (27)
Jennifer Hudson:
“If This Isn’t Love”: ^24 UAC (24), ^40 Urban (44)
à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Spotlightà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ : 5 UAC (5)
Jordin Sparks:
à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“One Step At A Timeà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ : ^19 AC (20)
Josh Gracin:
“Telluride”: ^40 Country (44)
Kellie Pickler:
“Best Days of Your Life” : ^38 Country (38)
Kelly Clarkson:
“My Life Would Suck Without You”: ^28 Pop (NEW), ^31 HAC (NEW)
Note: Numbers indicate position on the chart while numbers in brackets indicate the position on the chart the previous week. à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹^à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ indicates that the song has a bullet in that format.



Thanks for that chart, Kirsten. That’s some IMPRESSIVE CHIT!!!
Never underestimate the emotional investment and impulse buying prowess of AI finale viewers.
Am I right that any direct comparison of LO’s and Idol performances’ first week’s sales has LO coming in only slightly under Dream Big, so essentially comparable to the highest ranking Idol performance song, as opposed to single? And, that, without a huge TV gig? That’s sort of how I thought it would go, and I’m again impressed, sort of negatively, at how well Dream Big did! LOL
ETA: I took a quick look and found that LO reported total sales of 226,000 in the week following his SNL appearance. All in all, not that far off of TOML after huge TV promo. But the difference is notable, I agree. I just don’t think they’re fairly comparable for all the reasons noted, and probably others not.
Yeah, I do that every now and again. Where have you been? :laugh_tb: It’s a skill, yeah that’s the ticket. Came in quite handy in college…I think my B.S. stands for Bull Shitter. :cool2_tb:
Kirsten, do you know DA’s ranking on ss last week? I think my post got lost up thread.
I’m not Kirsten, but it was 62.
Holy cow. What a great increase in sales for Cook!
(And DANG this thread is so freaking LONG.)
JPfan, apparently you are psychic
Me too. I think it’s always a good thing to have previous contestants come back so the audience can see what they’re up to.
I’ll quibble with this a wee bit. While any excessive competitiveness between the contestants may be fabricated (which I didn’t really see any of anyway), the competition itself is not fabricated. AI is at its core a legitimate competition. A contest for the most votes. And, I don’t believe for a second that each and every one of those contestants isn’t there to win.
I propose that from a business point of view the fact that they are both former AI contestants is currently the most important thing about these two people. In the eyes of the public, at this point, that’s who they are. They aren’t “pop-rocker” and “pop-singer guy”. They’re “hey, it’s that guy from the TV show”. That’s the biggest thing they have going for them right now – their recognizability from the biggest TV show on the planet. And, that’s a huge thing.
Once one of these guys sells 3 or 4 million albums and establishes themselves in their genre, then maybe that’s the time to start comparing them to other artists who’ve achieved success through “traditional” methods. Until then, I submit that these guys are “Reality TV Contestants trying to establish music careers” and can reasonably be compared as such.
Thanks Jolene!
or it could be a reminder during the waiting time every time they hear the artist in their playlist
Nearly 600K in sales for Archie’s album (so far) might not be considered by some as doing “spectacularly well”, but I don’t think it’s anything to sneeze at either. I think if I would compare Archie’s path to anyone from season six, it would be his BFF Jordin, not Blake Lewis. Blake’s album was pretty much dead by January, and both of his singles flopped. Crush will probably match the sales of Tattoo (or come very close) before all is said and done. How his subsequent singles will perform is anyone’s guess, but I won’t be surprised if he has another hit on his hands with ALTNOY.
As for LO, I consider it a success and I’m happy to see it sell gold. Is it a huge success? In my opinion, no. But that’s OK-the song’s not dead yet and the album has sold very well thus far. Who knows where LO will eventually end up saleswise. I won’t get into the debate about whether it was the right choice for a lead single because it’s water under the bridge at this point and we know a new single is coming fairly soon.
You’re welcome, Judy!
Nice to see that all the Idols got a bump from AI returning. I wonder if Jordin passed Platinum yet… she was close.
101 Mediabase Adds for Kelly on Top 40! I don’t think I have ever seen that many adds. Holy Sh*t!
Ah, finally. Numbers and facts! And what lovely numbers and facts they are.
The permeability of the AI Bubble. What a wonderfully apt idea, and my apologies, I didn’t scroll back and see who said it.
I’ve stepped inside that bubble, for this season only, and I don’t name myself an American Idol fan, because I never saw the show before, and don’t plan to again.I know I’m not alone, however. What I am is a Hard Core David Cook Fan. Period.
I bought his music the first day it was available, I cannot imagine anyone calling themselves ‘hardcore’ who would wait around to do so. That’s a different paradigm than I’m in.
If it weren’t for boards like this one, he’d be on my Google alerts and I’d follow the ups and downs as closely as I could, but the Permeable AI Bubble that’s here and other places has given me access to much more…for which I am very grateful….and often very confounded by the tone of the discussion. That’s when I become one of MJ’s “Lurky loos”…And if that’s a pejorative like “looky loo” has always been – doesn’t bother me any.
Any time I see concrete facts and numbers posted, and unbiased logic employed in their discussion, you guys have my full attention, it gives me a frame of reference I wouldn’t otherwise have.
For which, many thanks.
Uh,yes, the Davids can attribute their career success to date to AI. But I kind of assumed that was an accepted and assumed given here. Heh. But okay, yes, I agree that AI was the foundation on which all AI contestants and winners from Kelly, Carrie and the Davids share – their career foundation started with AI. Which is kinda the AI brand premise, no?
See that’s where I get lost again. We only have 1 week of the AI performance sales to compare to LO. For me this is an even more bizarre comparison than the one with the imaginary sales numbers of some other single. First of all, LO outsold all but 2 of those performances. And unless someone is privy to the total sales numbers of Billie Jean or ABMB, I am not sure what proper comparison can be made with songs that were only available for download for a limited amount of time with pimping from a widely watched television show whose audience one would think is pretty predisposed to purchasing these songs. And if TOML is the benchmark we’re using, I still argue that it has had more if not equal pimping with LO. Talk to me about underperforming if Cook premiers his next single in AI and the sales numbers aren’t at par with his AI performance sales numbers. I’m just not buying this comparison. In any case, I’m looking at things this way… if and when a new single is released (and it’s one of those “better” singles) then it would just mean that the sales that were supposed to have been made will be made then. The sales numbers that people are saying that DCTR and that single should have made will still be made. So what’s the rush?
I any case, holy crap at 30,000 plus! I’m also very interested about the LO single sales this week.
Also, great to see Kelly getting so much love.
That’s assuming sales would’ve stayed flat from the prior week, which is kind of a big assumption, IMO. I didn’t crunch any numbers, but a quick glance at the HDD 50 indicated that the average sales change for the week was definitely negative, so I think the boost is more than 56%. How much more, I have no idea heh. I also think it makes more sense to think in terms of percentage boost rather than units (i.e. 10K additional units sold), because seasonal sales trends are driven by consumer behavior. If consumers in general are not shopping for CDs in January, extra promotion in January should be expected to improve sales relative to January, not November– IMO anyway.
Anyway this discussion is fun, but I’m just excited for DC back in the top 10, hope it sticks!
Agreed on all counts. My point was only that I think it’s completely fair to compare the success of one reality show contestant to another regardless of their genre. I believe it becomes more fair to make genre related comparisons once someone has moved beyond the AI brand to create a brand of their own.
I think it is always a good thing to stay in the top 10. It keeps your name front and center on the “leader board” so to speak. I believe there are a lot of lazy consumers out there that never look past the best sellers CD rack in Walmart or past the Top 10 list on iTunes. So yes, remaining in the Top 10 (or reentering) is a good thing.
Okay, well, if you want to compare the three AI contestants who released major label albums this year because they all happened to have released albums feel free. Of those three:Kristy Lee Cook, David Archuleta, and David Cook, well David Cook is winning in the overal album sales to date. But it still seems really flawed though. But who knows? maybe Kristy will have major surge and sell more than the Davids? I mean, we never can tell, can we?
But, to each his own.
DCTR is also #6 on Walmart.come for CDs and #11 for digital downloads. So I do believe the AI pimpage and rediscovery, if you will has helped.
Well, you see, this is NOT a hard-core David Cook fansite. And I don’t understand how anybody could confuse it as such. There are places to cheerlead, fanwank and preach to the choir. My blog isn’t it.
I AM a fan of the show. I rooted for David Cook Season 7. But Season 7 is OVER. I wish David all the luck in the world, but I don’t live or die by his comings and goings. His record sits on my shelf with the rest of my record collection at the moment.
I can tell when there’s negative chatter at the other boards. That’s when the “usual suspects” come crawling out of the woodwork. Yes, it irks me. Sorry.
I don’t expect the so-called hard-core fans who aren’t fans of the show to stick around much longer. Why would you? I’m all about Season 8 right now.
Ooh, Can I be Keyser SÃ ¶ze? No, seriously, I was right here the night the “Lurky Loo” comment was posted.
MJ, I’m sorry too if I hurt your feelings, you have a justly famous Blog, and it ‘is’ all about Idol. And I’m not. Nor have I ever fanwanked, etc in your house. I come for the number talk, but it certainly isn’t necessary for me to post to enjoy that.
I’m fine, thanks.
. If the negative chatter was just about me, I’d be less irritated.