Comments on: Monday Morning Mediabase Update – 05/17/09

By: sma11ie

sma11ie — Tue, 19 May 2009 15:44:32 +0000

After all, what could be a more sound business model for a music label, after investing a dollar or whatever it costs them to produce each disc, then to turn around and buy them all back at retail price down the line?

Haha, of course. On a related note, have you guys seen this article from Forbes about Idol's top earners? DC apparently earned an estimated 2 million since June 2008. With all the speculation about the restrictive contracts Idols get, and how little they earn relative to 19R/M/whatever, I'm guessing DC earning 2 mill means the label and his management are doing pretty well as well. Also, go Archie with 1.3mil.

iÃƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not surprised since the target market of the newspaper he is writing for (Manila Bulletin) are retireesÃƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦no one reads that paper anymore!

Thanks for the local perspective, RV65!

By: tierbee

tierbee — Tue, 19 May 2009 05:27:50 +0000

Damn that sneaky RCA anyway. LOL!

By: 123abc456

123abc456 — Tue, 19 May 2009 05:13:38 +0000

I am not sure what DCTR numbers will be. But I am guessing between 9 and 10 thousand. I could be completely wrong but looking at last weeks numbers at this point and this weeks numbers this is what I come up with. YMMV

By: RV65

RV65 — Tue, 19 May 2009 03:56:28 +0000

^^^”the fact that one reviewer in the Phillipines thought that fans there didnÃƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know his songs is related to his sales totals in the US, how?”

That reviewer does not know his facts!…i’m not surprised since the target market of the newspaper he is writing for (Manila Bulletin) are retirees…no one reads that paper anymore! How could the Davids have attracted AT LEAST 50,000 people witout them knowing about their songs in the album?…….tsss!

By: noctem seizure

noctem seizure — Tue, 19 May 2009 03:55:53 +0000

No wait, haven’t you heard the best conspiracy of them all? It was actually RCA who was buying up hundreds of thousands of Cook’s CDs! Can’t recall where exactly where I came across this ace-theory, but it’s to me BY FAR the most plausible. After all, what could be a more sound business model for a music label, after investing a dollar or whatever it costs them to produce each disc, then to turn around and buy them all back at retail price down the line? Those mad financial geniuses!

By: tierbee

tierbee — Tue, 19 May 2009 02:49:03 +0000

Oh, come now. One of you (us, hehe) Cook fans out there hacked the system and fixed the numbers. You know you did

Cookie might not have major radio hits but I swear his songs come on every time I turn around. I was out and about Saturday and went into Subway and heard Time of My Life (a/k/a song that will never die) there, then in the car Light On, then came home and heard Come Back to Me…

And if it wasn’t Cookie there were Idol songs everywhere – shoot, I went to the grocery store and heard Taylor’s “Do I Make You Proud?” LOL!

Sigh, Elliott. He’s so awesome… love, love his voice… his album is great…

By: lefty

lefty — Tue, 19 May 2009 00:44:01 +0000

Elliott, you deserve better.

He sure does. *sigh*

By: Jolene

Jolene — Mon, 18 May 2009 23:20:06 +0000

^^ Don’t you just love conspiracies? Ooh, shady.

any guesses from the DC numbers guruÃƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s on the final based on this update?

I would guess a return to around 7-8K, indeed the region he was in before Mother’s Day. I’d also guess we’ll have to wait for Brian’s update to know his numbers this week, because he probably won’t appear in the final HDD update. Next week, I’m betting he’ll be back in there.

Elliott, you deserve better.

By: sma11ie

sma11ie — Mon, 18 May 2009 22:53:53 +0000

^^ Looks like DC is reverting back to pre-Mother’s Day levels… any guesses from the DC numbers guru’s on the final based on this update?

Also, LMAO’ing with Jolene (heh, I made it a verb). Yes, there is a mass conspiracy involving Soundscan, 19Evil, iTunes, retailers, etc. to goose DCTR’s numbers. Besides, which, I’m confused by the logic here– the 1.1 mil is for US sales, so the fact that one reviewer in the Phillipines thought that fans there didn’t know his songs is related to his sales totals in the US, how?

By: Jolene

Jolene — Mon, 18 May 2009 22:45:16 +0000

^^ I’m sure SoundScan would love to answer those questions. LMAO

HDD update:
NOW IN: 55.94%

27 20 CARRIE UNDERWOOD ARISTA NASHVILLE 9,674
CARNIVAL RIDE

15 22 KELLY CLARKSON RCA/RMG 9,184
ALL I EVER WANTED

44 43 DAVID COOK 19/RCA/RMG 4,801
DAVID COOK

By: ccagain

ccagain — Mon, 18 May 2009 22:30:16 +0000

Satellite radio has been instrumental in shaping today’s radio playlists. I think it’s interesting that David Cook has sold the numember of CDs that he is reported to have sold with no real radio hit except TOML. Archie seems to be about average for today’s pop artists. Cook, I really question some of these numbers. Some reviewer in the Phillipines even remarked that the fans didn’t seem to know very many of the songs he sang at Sat. concert.

By: hypertwink

hypertwink — Mon, 18 May 2009 21:49:03 +0000

Oh and damn, I just noticed that DaughtryÃƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s NS is already #43 on pop. The going is so much easier once youÃƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve reached Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…â€œname-artistÃƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ statusÃƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.

noctem ~ No surprise there. (See what I did there too? LOL)

By: erinnthered

erinnthered — Mon, 18 May 2009 20:05:05 +0000

What format is CanPop? I don’t recall seeing that one before, but then again I don’t always catch the weekly report…

By: ggdoorsfan

ggdoorsfan — Mon, 18 May 2009 18:49:06 +0000

hi noctem…. nobody knows for sure what the final disposition of zero gravity will be… i’d love for it to be a radio single – with a new mix that captures the raw and live energy david brings to it in a concert setting…. i ‘ve listened to it several times since you made the comment about the melody being derivative of tmh, and i can’t hear it, but who knows….. it’s seems to be a universal favorite among fans and non fans, domestic and international, so we’ll just have to see how it plays out….

By: noctem seizure

noctem seizure — Mon, 18 May 2009 18:45:00 +0000

Oh and damn, I just noticed that Daughtry’s NS is already #43 on pop. The going is so much easier once you’ve reached “name-artist” status….

By: ladymadonna

ladymadonna — Mon, 18 May 2009 18:44:44 +0000

ItÃƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s still weird to not find the Magic Rainbow on AC. I believe itÃƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s still on the Billboard version, isnÃƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t it? So it will have charted for an entire year!

Yep – crazy, isn’t it. Mediabase and NielsenBDS (which feeds the Billboard charts) use slightly different recurrency rules. So the immortal Magic Rainbow is still charting actively in its 52nd week on the Billboard Hot Adult Contemporary Tracks chart (i.e. the AC airplay chart). It hit the top ten in that format six weeks after the finale, and has been in the top ten for 45 consecutive weeks (including 15 weeks at #1). I’m sad to say that it will, however, be retired to recurrent after 52 weeks since it is no longer in the top five on that format.

By: Jolene

Jolene — Mon, 18 May 2009 18:20:16 +0000

I think ZG has the best potential of any Archie song I heard to do well on current CHR. It's still a crapshoot, but with better odds IMHO. CHR has seriously gone to the dogs. *sigh* Oh, USA Today's Idol Airplay Chart is up.

By: searay

searay — Mon, 18 May 2009 17:49:00 +0000

noctem, it doesn’t seem likely that ZG will be a radio single, but nobody knows for sure. It seems more likely that it could be an iTunes release, but everything’s just speculation at this point.

By: noctem seizure

noctem seizure — Mon, 18 May 2009 16:55:17 +0000

CBTM seems to be trying to fight through some of the “wind-resistance” on CHR. (Get it “wind” resistance, eh? Eh? You see what I did there? Yeah? Yuk, yuk, yuk…. fizz….)

Anyway, now it needs some new stations playing it, and some new adds, of course….

I asked this is the concert thread– but is ZG confirmed to be Archie’s new single? It’s definitely got more verve, but doesn’t the chorus melody sound similar to a slightly altered chorus of TMH, only sped-up?

Well, hopefully, it’s upbeat enough to crack through the ceiling that ALTNOY (and CBTM) bumped into….

By: CathyMK

CathyMK — Mon, 18 May 2009 15:55:29 +0000

It’s still weird to not find the Magic Rainbow on AC. I believe it’s still on the Billboard version, isn’t it? So it will have charted for an entire year!

Interesting that Kris has had more radio spins than Adam some weeks.

By: amiroamor

amiroamor — Mon, 18 May 2009 15:19:17 +0000

^^ actually 29 and 19 lol

By: rayni

rayni — Mon, 18 May 2009 14:49:32 +0000

Wow – Kris had 22 spins and Adam 17. Good job!

By: Jolene

Jolene — Mon, 18 May 2009 14:09:43 +0000

Guess this means LO went recurrent on HAC, huh? Oh well, Go CBTM!

Patiently waiting for HDD, I’m curious about both DC and Elliott’s album numbers this week. Fingers crossed for both.