Monday Morning Mediabase Update - 11/24/08

Here are your very abbreviated Monday Morning Medibase Updates (Top 30/40/50/whatever in major formats only).

Bucky Covington:
“I’ll Walk”: 15 Country (9)

Carrie Underwood:
“Do You Hear What I Hear”: ^27 AC (40)

Chris Sligh:
“Arise”: 38 CAC (37)

Daughtry:
“Feels Like Tonight”: 8 AC (8)
“What About Now”: 7 HAC (6)

David Archuleta:
“Crush”: 11 AC (12), ^17 HAC (16), 21 Pop (18)

David Cook:
“Time of My Life”: 1 AC (1)
“Light On”: ^16 HAC (19), ^32 Pop (35)

Jennifer Hudson:
“If This Isn’t Love”: ^45 UAC (83)
“Spotlight”: 1 UAC (1), 13 Urban (10), ^20 Rhy (23)

Jordin Sparks:
“No Air” with Chris Brown: 13 AC (13)
“One Step At A Time” : 17 HAC (19), 33 AC (25)

Josh Gracin:
“Unbelievable (Anne Marie)”: 39 Country (37)

Kimberley Locke:
“Frosty The Snowman”: ^35 AC (44)
“We Need a Little Christmas”: ^45 AC (64)

Kristy Lee Cook:
“15 Minutes of Shame”: 31 Country (31)

Mandisa:
“Voice of a Savior”: 33 CAC (30)

Note: Numbers indicate position on the chart while numbers in brackets indicate the position on the chart the previous week. ‘^’ indicates that the song has a bullet in that format.

87 Responses to “Monday Morning Mediabase Update - 11/24/08”


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  1. 51 soundscene Nov 25th, 2008 at 4:48 pm

    Congrats to both Davids!

    I’m really happy Archie had a normal drop-off–both Taylor Swift and T-Pain had a 65% drop-off as well. It means that his sales weren’t overly fueled by “Idol sales.”

    Next week should be interesting. It’s Black Friday weekend and the start of the holiday buying season. Numbers should be somewhat skewed for everybody.

  2. 52 wordnerdarchie Nov 25th, 2008 at 4:52 pm

    Next week should be interesting. It’s Black Friday weekend and the start of the holiday buying season. Numbers should be somewhat skewed for everybody.

    Could you explain. Does that mean that you think that David A’s sales will increase for next week, hold at this week’s level, or just not decline by as large a percentage as this week?

  3. 53 Trina Nov 25th, 2008 at 4:54 pm

    OMG YAY!!! :clap_tb: GO COOKIE!! I was so stuck on LO’s numbers I didn’t think he could barely crack 250,000 *slaps self*

  4. 54 LK08 Nov 25th, 2008 at 4:57 pm

    I just hope that DA’s album is back in stock. In many places they have been out of it. Maybe they just didn’t send enough.

  5. 55 weareallinnocent Nov 25th, 2008 at 4:59 pm

    YAY, David x 2!! Splendid~ :lol_wp:

  6. 56 soundscene Nov 25th, 2008 at 5:05 pm

    Could you explain. Does that mean that you think that David A’s sales will increase for next week, hold at this week’s level, or just not decline by as large a percentage as this week?

    It means that some albums could see an increase in sales (mostly the ones that are selling at lower numbers already), and other albums could decrease in sales less than they would otherwise if it wasn’t Black Friday weekend. I don’t know about David A.’s album sales increasing, but it may not drop-off as much as it otherwise would for 3rd week sales. Just as Cook may not experience a normal drop-off because his second week is during Black Friday weekend. But it’s hard to tell. Some albums are better Christmas sellers than others.

  7. 57 cookcricket Nov 25th, 2008 at 5:09 pm

    Yeah DC! :cool1_tb: Good show!

    Congrats to Archie and fans too. I hope they both gain those sales outside the idol bubble.

  8. 58 Lisa Nov 25th, 2008 at 5:11 pm

    Congrats DC & Congrats Archie!!

    Great numbers!

  9. 59 soundscene Nov 25th, 2008 at 5:13 pm

    I just hope that DA’s album is back in stock. In many places they have been out of it. Maybe they just didn’t send enough.

    Yeah, that’s been a problem. But I’ve been hearing that stores have been restocking it for this coming weekend, so hopefully most have.

  10. 60 Michelle Nov 25th, 2008 at 5:23 pm

    Aha! You’re all welcome ;)

    Excellent numbers for both Davids, and as promised I am Ecstatic (plus 83,446)!

    Let’s hope for a soft drop for next week’s numbers thanks to Black Friday…

  11. 61 weareallinnocent Nov 25th, 2008 at 5:28 pm

    Not to sound gloomy, but I don’t actually expect Black Friday and the weekend to make much of a difference for anyone this year given the current economic climate. I hope I’m proven wrong btw. But I also think the economy is part of what led some vendors to understock for both idols, as I’ve heard “horror” sellout stories for both Davids — and I don’t think it was off the chart sales that did it, given the high expectations.

    Speaking of, will Kirsten be extrapolating Cook’s numbers in light of this year’s industry decline? Pretty please… and thanks! :smile2_ee:

  12. 62 Scott Nov 25th, 2008 at 5:28 pm

    Congrats to both Davids. We have two success stories and fans are the winners (and Sony/BMG which is making big bucks at at time when spending on music is way down).

  13. 63 jenni Nov 25th, 2008 at 5:33 pm

    I don’t know; CDs make pretty cheap holiday presents. In these economic times, I’d buy Junior a CD before I bought him a $50.00 Wii game.

    Great numbers! It’s very cool to see Cook holding his own with the big names at the top, even though Beyonce put the smack down on everyone this week!

  14. 64 Kirsten Nov 25th, 2008 at 5:33 pm

    Speaking of, will Kristen be extrapolating Cook’s numbers in light of this year’s industry decline? Pretty please… and thanks!

    Sure will. Tomorrow, when we get the real numbers and the percentage drop.

    Sony/BMG

    Sony

    LOL. I’m such a picker of nits.

  15. 65 Scott Nov 25th, 2008 at 5:47 pm

    Some comparison and perspective. Ladymadonna at DCO pulled these numbers of 2008 number 1 debuts. Both Davids could have been #1 in less competitive weeks. Cook beat everyone on this list, which includes Madonna; Archie bested Alan Jackson, George Strait, Neal Diamond, Kenny Chesney, Death Cab, and 3 Doors Down. Both went up against powerhouses that sold more than 500k.

    Tue, 11/25/2008 - 18:30 — ladymadonna

    Regarding 2008 albums debuting at #1 with less than 283K in sales, there are tons of them (it’s the rule rather than the exception in this day and age):

    March 22, 2008
    119,151 GOOD TIME Alan Jackson
    March 29, 2008
    198,375 TRILLA Rick Ross

    April 5, 2008
    236,192 WELCOME TO THE DOLLHOUSE Danity Kane

    April 12, 2008
    189,632 DAY26 Day26

    April 19, 2008
    166,305 TROUBADOUR George Strait

    April 26, 2008
    204,841 SPIRIT Leona Lewis

    May 17, 2008
    279,522 HARD CANDY Madonna

    May 24, 2008
    145,840 HOME BEFORE DARK Neil Diamond

    May 31, 2008
    143,586 NARROW STAIRS Death Cab For Cutie

    June 7, 2008
    154,372 3 DOORS DOWN 3 Doors Down

    June 21, 2008
    252,777 INDESTRUCTIBLE Disturbed

    August 2, 2008
    186,640 UNTITLED Nas

    September 13, 2008
    239,516 ALL HOPE IS GONE Slipknot

    September 20, 2008
    259,782 THE RECESSION Young Jeezy

    November 1, 2008
    176,414 LUCKY OLD SUN Kenny Chesney

    November 22, 2008
    164,710 TWILIGHT Soundtrack

    NB: I pulled these quickly so I may have accidentally missed a few or included some that weren’t chart debuts. But this should give you the general idea. Dave’s done damn good.

  16. 66 lovegoodmusic Nov 25th, 2008 at 5:49 pm

    Congrats to both Davids!!!

    Yea!!!

  17. 67 leome Nov 25th, 2008 at 5:54 pm

    I don’t know; CDs make pretty cheap holiday presents. In these economic times, I’d buy Junior a CD before I bought him a $50.00 Wii game.

    I think so too. I don’t think people stop buying things, they just go for what’s less expensive. And all things considered music is always a nice cheap present. May not see a big drop.

  18. 68 Layla Nov 25th, 2008 at 5:55 pm

    Go DC Go! What an awesome opening week number! I am so pleased for him.

  19. 69 Incipit Nov 25th, 2008 at 5:57 pm

    Thanks for the list, Scott, and by extension…many thanks to LadyMadonna for compiling the data.

    Cook beat everyone on this list, which includes Madonna; Archie bested Alan Jackson, George Strait, Neal Diamond, Kenny Chesney, Death Cab, and 3 Doors Down. Both went up against powerhouses that sold more than 500k.

    Both Davids have every reason to be extremely pleased with their debuts.(I know, all the numbers aren’t in yet on David C.)

    May I just note the irony of the third last title on the list?

    September 20, 2008
    259,782 THE RECESSION Young Jeezy

    Why, yes.

  20. 70 FolkFan Nov 25th, 2008 at 6:00 pm

    If DC’s numbers hold, DCTR would have the 15th highest first week’s sales of the year thus far, and the highest for a new artist. (Year to date is important—Kanye West and GnR look likely to post higher first weeks when the numbers come in for next week.)

  21. 71 Michelle Nov 25th, 2008 at 6:10 pm

    I’m just happy both Davids outdebuted the freakin Twilight soundtrack. (Does that put them on Team Potter? ;)

  22. 72 Lisa Nov 25th, 2008 at 6:10 pm

    I know, all the numbers aren’t in yet on David C.

    What numbers are missing?

  23. 73 smartcookie Nov 25th, 2008 at 6:12 pm

    Fabulous numbers. I, too, said anything over 200,000 would make me happy, so 283K is dandy!

    15th highest first-week sales of the year, highest first-week sales for a new artist, 283K up against Beyonce and Nickelback, more than Taylor Swift… Very, very good work, Mr. Cook!

  24. 74 Jolene Nov 25th, 2008 at 6:12 pm

    I lost the prediction contest.

    But - I lost it because I bet too low, not too high! That’s one competition I’m happy to lose.

    GO DC! He did amazing. Whooot!

    If DC’s numbers hold, DCTR would have the 15th highest first week’s sales of the year thus far, and the highest for a new artist.

    Really? That’s so freaking awesome!

  25. 75 FolkFan Nov 25th, 2008 at 6:19 pm

    I’ll post updated numbers tomorrow after the soundscan data is in, but yup.

  26. 76 lovegoodmusic Nov 25th, 2008 at 6:21 pm

    I think Cook will also have some great figures next week. Because his album sales are still high, and t Walmart and Amazon re-stocked this week.

    #4 Borders
    #7 Barns & Noble
    #4 Amazon
    #1 Newbury Comics
    #3 Walmart

  27. 77 Incipit Nov 25th, 2008 at 6:23 pm

    Lisa wrote: What numbers are missing?

    I’m going by Kirstens post, “tomorrow, when we get the real numbers and the percentage drop.”…and information that perhaps 20% of the sales from smaller retailers are not yet reported.

    highest first-week sales for a new artist, 283K up against Beyonce and Nickelback, more than Taylor Swift… Very, very good work, Mr. Cook!

    Indeed.

    And this? will send me looking for a list of sales that only ranks new artist debuts in 2008…but after tomorrow, of course.

  28. 78 Michelle Nov 25th, 2008 at 6:35 pm

    I think we will get actuals from Amazon via Soundscan tomorrow too. Since Amazon doesn’t report to HDD, HDD has to plug in an estimate number for them for the numbers they reported today. Amazon doesn’t have a huge market share though so they usually don’t end up changing the final count too much from HDD.

  29. 79 Lisa Nov 25th, 2008 at 6:58 pm

    Thanks to all who answered! Go DC! I am so happy for him!

  30. 80 Scott Nov 25th, 2008 at 7:57 pm

    The amazon numbers, like Michelle said, aren’t usually all that big… no where in the league of Walmart & itunes, but Cook sells above the norm there. Well, that’s mostly anectdotal, but his fans do seem to prefer Amazon more than fans of other artists. If that’s the case, he could get a bump up on the final numbers. Last week I think Archie ended up with a 3000 plus bump from the Tuesday final estimate (correct me if I’m wrong). If that happens in the same proportion, Cook could be get a 5000 bump. If amazon sales are higher for Cook as the anectdotal evidence suggests, he could get up to a 7000 bump and top off around 290,000. I’m not overly optimistic, but I don’t rule it out. I would guess he’ll come in around 285k when all is said and done, which is fantastic.

  31. 81 Bocephus Nov 25th, 2008 at 8:45 pm

    Scott, you are definitely Optimistic to a Fault!

    I’d love to hear Cook’s reaction to all this ’bout now.

  32. 82 FolkFan Nov 25th, 2008 at 9:41 pm

    10-to-1 odds that he’d cry, if he hasn’t already. [grin]

  33. 83 shell29 Nov 25th, 2008 at 10:23 pm

    10-to-1 odds that he’d cry, if he hasn’t already. [grin]

    :happy_tb:

    Congratulations to DC on a great opening week! I’m so proud of him.

  34. 84 weareallinnocent Nov 25th, 2008 at 10:30 pm

    ^^^ Awwww, he’s a weeper. I, for one, hope his tears of joy roll, roll, roll on, certainly throughout his Turkey Day dinner and well, well beyond!

  35. 85 FolkFan Nov 26th, 2008 at 12:37 am

    As an FYI, I did a double-check on the Billboard numbers. If DC’s numbers hold where they are, his first-week sales would be the 16th best debut of the year (best for a new artist), and 18th best sales week of the year. Obviously, there are still 5 more sales weeks to go, and some may (and, in the case of Kanye West and GnR, are predicted to) outsell that 283K number. But all in all, quite a good week for Mr. Cook. I can put out numbers on that tomorrow, once we have finals for this week, if folks are interested.

  36. 86 sherryw Nov 26th, 2008 at 3:33 am

    I’m really happy Archie had a normal drop-off–both Taylor Swift and T-Pain had a 65% drop-off as well. It means that his sales weren’t overly fueled by “Idol sales.”

    Actually, no, it means nothing of the kind. I think it all depends on which way the numbers are spun and what purpose they fit (as with all things).
    Most artists (Idol or otherwise) experience a drop anywhere from 50 to 70 percent in their second sales week. So, it could be spun that there were no or few Idol-fueled sales (but without documentation of the pre-orders which were undoubtedly Idol-related, there isn’t much to back that statement up outside of conjecture).

    Of course, the other spin would be that Crush sold 166k in its first week and the album only bested it by 17k (with pre-orders included). When the single went on to be a Top 20 hit and sell a million copies, those numbers could be viewed as a disappointment or an indication that fans interested in purchasing all of an artist’s music hasn’t increased from the initial outing. Or it could be viewed as simply standard sales for teen pop (singles, not necessarily albums).

    Please note that I am not saying that any of these scenarios are the case because, in all honesty, none of us know these things. I am simply demonstrating that numbers of all kinds can be interpreted in a number of ways; it all depends on which side of the fence you are on. And, it helps to be a spin doctor with authoritative, convincing flair (but usually only with people who don’t care to think for themselves). LOL

  37. 87 cruzceleste Nov 26th, 2008 at 4:09 am

    I’m just happy both Davids outdebuted the freakin Twilight soundtrack. (Does that put them on Team Potter? ;)

    Team Potter FTW!!!!

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