Monday Morning Mediabase Update – 12/01/08
Here are your very abbreviated Monday Morning Medibase Updates (Top 30/40/50/whatever in major formats only).
Carrie Underwood:
“Do You Hear What I Hear”: ^19 AC (27), ^50 CAC (74)
“Hark! The Herald Angels Sing”: ^28 AC (51)
Daughtry:
“Feels Like Tonight”: 10 AC (8)
à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“What About Nowà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ : 9 HAC (7), 20 AC (14)
David Archuleta:
“Crush”: 12 AC (11), ^16 HAC (17), 23 Pop (21)
David Cook:
à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Time of My Lifeà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ : 1 AC 1
“Light On”: ^12 HAC (16), ^31 Pop (32)
Jennifer Hudson:
“If This Isn’t Love”: ^34 UAC (45), ^50 Urban (58)
à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Spotlightà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ : 2 UAC (1), 16 Urban (13), ^21 Rhy (20)
Jordin Sparks:
à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“No Airà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ with Chris Brown: 14 AC (13)
à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“One Step At A Timeà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ : 20 HAC (19), 46 AC (33)
Kimberley Locke:
“Frosty The Snowman”: ^21 AC (35)
“We Need a Little Christmas”: ^41 AC (45)
Kristy Lee Cook:
“15 Minutes of Shame”: 29 Country (31)
Note: Numbers indicate position on the chart while numbers in brackets indicate the position on the chart the previous week. à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹^à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ indicates that the song has a bullet in that format.
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Yes and Yes.
Kellie Pickler and Josh Gracin also made second albums for their original labels, but they were not runner-ups. Daughtry is obviously in the process of making his second album for his original label as well. Jordin has not yet made her second album, but I think that it is likely that she will.
I actually think I somehow got more invested than it’s being just about the music and their ability to continue to make/record music. I came to care about them as individuals (Archuleta and Cook) and want their personal success in this business. It’s sorta like watching your brother (or any other relative or friend for that matter) on a journey to becoming a “star”. I am enjoying watching their growth and development. It seems I care if they are happy with themselves and their work, etc. I guess this happens because AI gets into their back story and we learn a lot about them. And then we read MJ’s or DCO or FOD and learn more. You know, usually, I just stumble on a new artist and have no idea where they came from or know anything about their personal life and don’t even care. So, the idols are sort of their own nation in a way, lol. I’m a fan of many artists, but not to this extent, which is interesting to me how that happens.
Wow. So 83.3% of winners get to make a 2nd album, and 83.3% of runner-ups don’t. (If my math is correct.) That lessens my angst for David Cook a lot, since the odds are very much in favor of him at least getting that far.I hope the label isn’t upset that David Archuleta sold so much less than Clay during his 1st few weeks.
That makes sense to me, CathyMK. As I think that everyone on every side of this, including the ones who say that they’re neutral, it really doesn’t make much sense to compare the two Davids, given the different genres, labels, etc. So, ultimately, the label will be looking at its own considerations, and likely focusing on comparators within genre, other debut artists, etc. My guess is that both Davids look good as debut artists within their genres.
Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve also been wondering about the history of Idol winners and runner-ups getting to make 2nd albums on their original label. Is Clay the only runner-up to get a 2nd album? Is Taylor the only winner that was dropped before a 2nd album?
I’d never thought of it that way, but you know, I think that’s right.
Oh lo! Maybe I shouldn’t ever comment on album sales at all. lol. But yeah, what Kirsten says. Whatever Kirsten says I agree with. There ya go.
Since this was for me:
180K first week is never a disappointment for a debut artist. Or really any pop artist. I don’t see how it would have been a huge disappointment for Cook either. But smile, he got 280K.
I think you might have me confused with somebody else. I’ve never said that.
Okee dokee.
I’m happy you’re happy.
Hey, I like their new album. :smile_wp:
Well, late to the party, but it reads like everybody is happy, and with documented reason to be!
Since I’m so very bad at angst, and it’s coming up on the Holidays anyway, I’m happy too.
There’s really only two reasonable things the Davids have in common, IMO…so I’m wishing both of the left handed Sagittarians gold…if not for their birthdays this month, then for Christmas, because it would make a lovely gift.
And again we have obituaries being written for “Light On”. LO has gained approximately 8M in AI in the past two weeks for a total of nearly 20M. To put that in perspective, in the seven weeks prior to that since its release, it struggled below 12M. Now, I’m no “expert”, but it doesn’t make a lot of sense to me to talk about pulling the plug on a song just when it’s beginning to take off.
Edit:
Cooler heads prevail….
I think Jive is just fine with Archie’s sales thus far. I am wondering if RCA is upset with Cook’s sales since they are so much lower than Aiken’s sales were. I mean Aiken was only runner-up and all.
Are you talking about Clay’s sales from 2003? When he sold huge? Surely you can’t mean Clay’s current sales where he’s struggled to sell 150,000 in 6 months? Somehow I doubt RCA is sitting around comparing two weeks of sales from any current artist to someone from five years ago.
Be careful luckee55, you could easily substitute Cook’s name with Carrie , Kelly or Archie in that same sentence (and of course change the record label).
Amen sister. And I’ll go a step further than that. Nobody can “win” the argument. Because while number themselves are objective facts, they mean nothing without context. And you can give whatever context you want to numbers.
Objective Fact: TOML is platinum appox 6 months after release. Crush is platinum approx 3 months after release
Archie spin: Well lookie there, Crush went platinum faster. Archie wins!
Cook Spin: Cook has the longest charting, highest selling coronation single ever! Cook wins!
Objective fact: DA’s record sales total about 316K after 3 weeks, Cook’s total 387K after 2
Archie spin: Well lookie there! Archie is only 71K behind Cook! We’re gonna catch him! And he had an increase in sales this week while Cook lagged behind!
Cook Spin: Cook is 71k ahead of Archie after only 2 week of sales! Cook is killing him!
You know what I say? If you really want to compare Idols, don’t just compare to the ones that make your boy look good. The cold hard truth here? (this is where both sides hate me – lol) Ain’t neither of these guys Carrie or Daughtry. Those two came in and immediately dominated their genres. I don’t see Miley Cyrus and the Jonas Brothers quaking in their boots. And Nickleback is not looking over their shoulder. Daughtry is not curled up in the corner of his room in a ball of angst. lol. They are both doing well, but no one is a Superstar yet. Both second singles could flop. Or, both could go on to have decent/good record sales – ala Kelly Clarkson’s debut (Yay!). And Rueben Studdard’s (Uh-oh).
This is why you don’t compare Idols. No amount of passive aggressive fanwaring is going to change the fact that you can spin things however you want, and that the ultimate truth will be known in time. A lot of time. 2-3 weeks in will tell you nothing. And for every round you “win” in the comparison game, you will lose another tomorrow. Speculation is fun, but trying to “win” the competition over and over again just generates angst, resentment and anger, and keeps you from enjoying the success your idol does have. In my opinion anyway.