Monday Morning Mediabase Update – 12/15/08

Here are your very abbreviated Monday Morning Medibase Updates (Top 30/40/50/whatever in major formats only).

Carrie Underwood:
“Do You Hear What I Hear”: ^4 AC (9). ^41 Country (45)
“Hark! The Herald Angels Sing”: ^20 AC (24)

Daughtry:
“Feels Like Tonight”: 12 AC (11)
à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“What About Nowà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ : ^7 HAC (9), ^22 AC (25)

David Archuleta:
“Crush”: 16 HAC (15), 16 AC (16), 35 Pop (28)

David Cook:
à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Time of My Lifeà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ : 5 AC (3)
“Light On”: ^11 HAC (11), ^24 Pop (26)

Jennifer Hudson:
“If This Isn’t Love”: ^31 UAC (32), ^46 Urban (46),
à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Spotlightà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ : ^4 UAC (3), 28 Rhy (23)

Jordin Sparks:
à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“No Airà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  with Chris Brown: 23 AC (19)
à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“One Step At A Timeà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  : 27 HAC (21)

Kellie Pickler:
“Best Days of Your Life”: ^49 Country (51)

Kimberley Locke:
“Frosty The Snowman”: 13 AC (13)
“We Need a Little Christmas”: ^30 AC (33)

Mandisa:
“Christmas Makes Me Cr…”: 41 CAC (36)

Note: Numbers indicate position on the chart while numbers in brackets indicate the position on the chart the previous week. à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹^à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ indicates that the song has a bullet in that format.

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149 Responses to “Monday Morning Mediabase Update – 12/15/08”

  • mj:

    If it was the other way around, wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t the Cookies be saying à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“our David would be selling more if he was doing tons of Gingle Balls and had a new single coming out just in time for Christmasà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ?

    They absolutely would. So let’s get back to discussing the numbers, shall we? :) .

    ETA:

    Also, please be careful not to lecture your fellow posters. Please stick to your opinions on the topic.

    When I moderate, could you please just let my post stand without any “me too” posts?

    Thank you.

  • tinawina:

    For David Cook, we are at ~580K, this week I see him selling 120-150K, next week maybe another 100K (or perhaps more? Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not really sure how to estimate sales interrupted by Christmas).

    I think that may be a bit high, but there is no way to really tell.

    I believe this week should see a rise for most albums, and next week should be somewhat weaker, is this in any way correct?

    Yeah, that’s the general idea. The next sales report will include the weekend before christmas and that’s always huge. But the week after that will include the last actual shopping days before christmas as well as some after christmas sales action, so i am thinking the drop between the 2 weeks may not be as bad as usual.

  • frogcooke:

    Oh hey, someone just tole me they heard TOML playing on the biggest loser show. Thought I might let you guys know it was on tv. heh

    Btw whats TOML’s numbers up to?

  • FolkFan:

    Not sure. I have been asking Ken Barnes for an update on the Magic Rainbow, so I’m hoping that he’ll come through tomorrow. If not, I’ll keep asking politely. [smile]

  • Hazehel:

    I think that may be a bit high, but there is no way to really tell.

    Well, I always think that sales days just before Christmas will be huge and the CDs are bought by people who aren’t necessarily fans. As long as his CDs get dispalyed prominently enough there will be people who will buy them. I am one of those who shop panic-stricken at the last minute and will just grab CDs off the rack without really thinking too carefully (a terrible idea really, I think I have given too many badly-chosen CDs as gifts, so much so that I fear I might actually have unintentionally broken up a marriage with one such thoughtless gifts. The details are really too gory to recount, but friends, don’t give CDs with any hint of sexual content as gifts.)

    Anyway, I think I’ll stick with my prediction of ~250K for the two weeks, personally I think it could even possibly go higher, although I’d be quite happy if it is 50K fewer.

  • Jlyn:

    ToML on Biggest Loser? That song is so made of montage. I think it is going to be around for a while in that capacity. Yeah for Reggie Hamm. I hope he has been parlay the song’s success into some other writing opportunities.

  • tinawina:

    Well, I always think that sales days just before Christmas will be huge and the CDs are bought by people who arenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t necessarily fans. As long as his CDs get dispalyed prominently enough there will be people who will buy them. I am one of those who shop panic-stricken at the last minute and will just grab CDs off the rack without really thinking too carefully (a terrible idea really, I think I have given too many badly-chosen CDs as gifts, so much so that I fear I might actually have unintentionally broken up a marriage with one such thoughtless gifts. The details are really too gory to recount, but friends, donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t give CDs with any hint of sexual content as gifts.)

    Oh, I agree with all of that! I’ve been guilty of the last minute panic CD purchase more than a few times. LOL. I’m just not sure he’ll get a bump as big as 50% (to 150K) though I see 120 as a relatively safe bet. I think the last minute sales will end up split between the next chart and the one after, so I’m guessing the bumps will be a tad smaller. But I would Love, LOVE to be wrong. I’m rooting for you right now. Ha.

  • Keel:

    That song is so made of montage.

    Bwah! I don’t think I’ve ever seen it put quite that way before but you are soooo right. Magic Rainbows is made for montage-ing.

  • FolkFan:

    Last minute panic CD purchases FTMFW.

  • Jlyn:

    I just read through the thread and noticed the new adds for LO on Top 40. When I have looked at LO’s position on Top 40 it seemed to be following Hinder’s Without You up the chart. Now it looks as if it might overtake Hinder. I thought LO would top out soon, but it looks like it is gaining some late momentum while Hinder is starting to slow down. I am wondering if Top 40 stations are choosing between them and LO is winning. (They are both rock ballads, and I imagine Top 40 stations will only play so many.) Could it be that better album sales by Cook are influencing the program managers? Of course it may be that Cook is more user friendly to the top 40 crowd being the American Idol and very much less scary than the Hinder guys. And I could also be totally off base with all my speculation – I am just surprised by the by what seems to be a kind late in the game spincreases by LO.

  • Hinder has already had one major mainstream hit with the hideous “Lips of an Angel.” I don’t think stations would be hesitant to play their new one considering that.

    Personally, I hear the two about equally on my local top 40 station.

    Of course, any increases that LO gets work for me. :)

  • sunchick:

    Goshà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦just imagine how many CDà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s both Davids would be selling if both Jive and RCA knew what they were doing. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a shame what theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve done to these poor boys

    Barry Weiss, is that you? :ponder_tb: :smirk1_ee:

    There is seriously a Hinder song with the title “Lips of an ANgel?” Oh man. Apparently I missed that one.

    Anyway, yay Golden Cook (okay, that sounds drrrty), and congrats to fans of other Idols also doing well.

  • hardkandy:

    Hinder has already had one major mainstream hit with the hideous à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Lips of an Angel.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

    LOL, hideous is right. At first I tolerated the song but when I saw the music video…no, no, no. The lead singer thinks he’s some stud and makes these annoying hand movements when he sings… just… NO. I cannot stand Hinder, I may like Nickelback more than them which is a feat.

    I hate it when DC gets compared to these bands, when he was still on AI, I got the comparison coz of the voice quality… but post-AI, his songs are so much better and have more substance.

  • mj:

    I hate it when DC gets compared to these bands, when he was still on AI, I got the comparison coz of the voice qualityà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ but post-AI, his songs are so much better and have more substance.

    Hinder’s lyrics are idiotic. They truly are posers in that they really try to sell this bogus ” bad boy rawk star” image to unsuspecting fans. It’s really phony.

    David Cook >>>>>>>>>> Hinder.

  • leome:

    Isn’t Light On co-written by Hinder’s lead singer, or It’s someone else? I have no idea how he looks like, but yeah, can’t stand the Lips song.

    I hate it when DC gets compared to these bands, when he was still on AI, I got the comparison coz of the voice qualityà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ but post-AI, his songs are so much better and have more substance.

    I think it just became really easy to say that DC sounds like them, even before his album was out he was already in that category, many people are too arrogant to even re-think that… (not that I think there’s anything bad with NB or Daugtry btw)

    Could it be that better album sales by Cook are influencing the program managers?

    I don’t really know how radio stations work but I’d think good sales would have impact. If an album sells, it’s because people want to listen to that artist… I guess.

  • Jlyn:

    Just to clarify, I was not making a quality comparison between David Cook and Hinder. From what little I know of them they make Nickleback look like artistes (French accent) only out to improve the state of music and the world. I was only speculating on why LO seems to be gaining momentum on Top 40 radio at this point. Program managers are not necessarily known for making the quality music pick.

  • Kris:

    I am very happy with David A.’s sales. He has had very consistent sales so far. I hope that keeps up.

  • Trina:

    Oh god as much as it pains me Lips of an Angel was HUGE. I absolutely hated that song and I got so sick of it when it was out. I remember shortly after the finale the singer, Austin Winkler told EW he wanted to write for DC and I started to twitch.

    Honestly the 8 adds today including the 3 major markets have me stumped. Then again I’m also baffled as to why Z100 suddenly loves LO considering the program director hinted not long ago it wasn’t a great fit for them. By the way LO debuted on Romeo’s 9 at 9 countdown tonight.

    No clue about sales for the next couple of weeks but I do hope the SNL rerun will help since a CD is actually available to buy now. He probably has benefited a little from the AI commercial but I don’t watch Fox so I don’t know if they show it a lot or what. I wouldn’t be surprised if the latest Skechers posters/ads are helping a little too. I saw one on a bus stop the other day and one in my local mall. The album ad right on there gives people a reminder who may have liked him on AI and possibly forgot about him he has a CD out.

  • Isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t Light On co-written by Hinderà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s lead singer, or Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s someone else? I have no idea how he looks like, but yeah, canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t stand the Lips song.

    Brian Howes, the co-writer you’re talking about, was the producer on Hinder’s first album.

  • leome:

    Brian Howes, the co-writer youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re talking about, was the producer on Hinderà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s first album.

    Oh, thanks. I’ve spent all these months thinking the Hinder’s lead singer had written it… :S

  • mac:

    but Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d think good sales would have impact. If an album sells, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s because people want to listen to that artist

    I agree. Being in the top 10 of album sales for 4 weeks straight has to have an influence. I think stations/PDs are noticing that and adding the song. LO seems to be holding steady on iTunes around 40ish and it is climbing on top 40. It seems to be gaining good momentum.

    By the way LO debuted on Romeoà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s 9 at 9 countdown tonight.

    That’s great! Was it #9?

  • tinawina:

    By the way LO debuted on Romeoà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s 9 at 9 countdown tonight.

    Whoa! Thats great, that means the NY audience is responding to the song. I wonder how long it can stay there?

  • cookcricket:

    And I could also be totally off base with all my speculation – I am just surprised by the by what seems to be a kind late in the game spincreases by LO.

    I’m not surprised. I don’t know anything, but I’m not surprised. I don’t believe we’ve heard the last of LO. If I’m wrong, that’s okay.

  • tinawina:

    LO has pretty much been behaving like a song from your typical alt rock/popish band like Lifehouse. Those move slower overall and chart higher on HAC than on Top 40. So in that sense I’m not surprised by the adds. Where it has always lagged a bit is in actual sales of the single. But you know, there are a lot of perfectly legit ways to interpret all that so I’m not trying to open that can of worms again. :) In any case, the adds are a good thing and means the song should be peaking when they need it too… during the January/February slump.

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